re: Cannabis and breastfeeding
2411 postsposted 29th Aug '07
Im glad everyone has been mature about the whole thing, and this hasnt esculated(sp) and had to go to TDC. We dont need that kinda drama here in PWI.
Now with that said, I used to smoke pot too on occasion but quit when before I got pregnant. Now my husband smoked pot everyday since he was like.. 13 until he found out I was pregnant and he quit too. His parents smoke pot till this day and they have been doing since they were younger. My dad smokes pot on occasion too, but he has never done it around me and its not something that has ever been a big issue. What I dont agree with parents smoking pot around their children. And im not saying any of you are. My husbands parents smoked around him and his siblings since they were babies so they were always exposed to it. They never tried to hide it. They also smoke ALL DAY, EVERYDAY. So to my husband... it was like everyday life. He thought it was normal and it isnt. Now my In laws are raising their 5 grandchildren and they smoke around them as well... and they seem to think its fine. I DO NOT agree with that AT ALL! We spend so much time and money in schools, at home, on Tv trying to educate to children that doing drugs is bad, but how is that going to be effective when children see their parents doing it... they are going to think its ok, so why cant I do it???
I dont think its a good idea to do it around your children and im totally against it, but if you are going to do it, do it in another room while they are asleep, or not home.
Now as for, doing it while breastfeeding... I dont think its a great idea. Arent we breastfeeding because breastmilk is whats best for your child? Then why pollute it with pot.... To me its like equal to someone who drinks alot while breastfeeding... You see what I mean. Might as well quit breastfeeding and start feeding your child formula.
Im sorry if I was blunt but thats my opinion. Im not here to start any arguements or make anyone mad at me. Im not trying to be hurtful. I just wanted to give my opinion. I still love everyone on this site! Dont be mad!
quoteNow with that said, I used to smoke pot too on occasion but quit when before I got pregnant. Now my husband smoked pot everyday since he was like.. 13 until he found out I was pregnant and he quit too. His parents smoke pot till this day and they have been doing since they were younger. My dad smokes pot on occasion too, but he has never done it around me and its not something that has ever been a big issue. What I dont agree with parents smoking pot around their children. And im not saying any of you are. My husbands parents smoked around him and his siblings since they were babies so they were always exposed to it. They never tried to hide it. They also smoke ALL DAY, EVERYDAY. So to my husband... it was like everyday life. He thought it was normal and it isnt. Now my In laws are raising their 5 grandchildren and they smoke around them as well... and they seem to think its fine. I DO NOT agree with that AT ALL! We spend so much time and money in schools, at home, on Tv trying to educate to children that doing drugs is bad, but how is that going to be effective when children see their parents doing it... they are going to think its ok, so why cant I do it???
I dont think its a good idea to do it around your children and im totally against it, but if you are going to do it, do it in another room while they are asleep, or not home.
Now as for, doing it while breastfeeding... I dont think its a great idea. Arent we breastfeeding because breastmilk is whats best for your child? Then why pollute it with pot.... To me its like equal to someone who drinks alot while breastfeeding... You see what I mean. Might as well quit breastfeeding and start feeding your child formula.
Im sorry if I was blunt but thats my opinion. Im not here to start any arguements or make anyone mad at me. Im not trying to be hurtful. I just wanted to give my opinion. I still love everyone on this site! Dont be mad!
I'm TTC since April '09, have 1 child & 4 angel babies & live in El Paso, Texas
71268 postsposted 29th Aug '07
MommyAmbie wrote: Now as for, doing it while breastfeeding... I dont think its a great idea. Arent we breastfeeding because breastmilk is whats best for your child? Then why pollute it with pot.... To me its like equal to someone who drinks alot while breastfeeding... You see what I mean. Might as well quit breastfeeding and start feeding your child formula.
Child experts would disagree with you on this point. They advocate breastfeeding even if you smoke cigarettes, as no matter what breastfeeding is still better for your baby than formula.
Once again, child experts agree that breast milk from cigarette smoking mothers is still better for your baby than formula.
C.
I have 2 kids & live in St. Catharines, Ontario
posted 29th Aug '07
I'm a lurker, but was so glad to see this post- it makes me feel a little bit more "acceptable" for lack of a better term. Yeah, I smoke pot. Not a whole lot, but my bf and I both toke. The rules are that we only smoke outside, or in the bedroom with the door closed before bed- never around the baby.
But to the point- C, you're awesome to have the facts straight and available. As you pointed out- moderation is the key. To everything.
(ps- totally got the grindy remark, hehe)
quoteBut to the point- C, you're awesome to have the facts straight and available. As you pointed out- moderation is the key. To everything.
(ps- totally got the grindy remark, hehe)
I live in Quebec
posted 29th Aug '07
I understand and I have read that. I actually used to smoke a pack a day before I got pregnant and quit as soon as I found out. I have been craving a cigarette since I have given birth to my son SOO BAD! I crave them all the time, but that doesnt mean that just because I want a cigarette im going to start smoking... Ill have self control and wait till I am done with breastfeeding. Ive done it this whole time, why not wait awhile longer? You didnt smoke while you were pregnant did you?
I understand it can help your sex life. But if someone told me that smoking a cigarette can help my sex drive doesnt mean I would go and do it...
quoteI understand it can help your sex life. But if someone told me that smoking a cigarette can help my sex drive doesnt mean I would go and do it...
I'm TTC since April '09, have 1 child & 4 angel babies & live in El Paso, Texas
posted 29th Aug '07
MommyAmbie wrote: I understand and I have read that. I actually used to smoke a pack a day before I got pregnant and quit as soon as I found out. I have been craving a cigarette since I have given birth to my son SOO BAD! I crave them all the time, but that doesnt mean that just because I want a cigarette im going to start smoking... Ill have self control and wait till I am done with breastfeeding. Ive done it this whole time, why not wait awhile longer? You didnt smoke while you were pregnant did you?
I understand it can help your sex life. But if someone told me that smoking a cigarette can help my sex drive doesnt mean I would go and do it...
Pot? Yes, to ease my nausea that was not allowing me to eat/keep down any food.
Here's the thing, and I know not everyone will agree, but if someone randomly told me this, that'd be one thing. When my doctor tells me, that carries a lot of weight.
C.
I have 2 kids & live in St. Catharines, Ontario
1414 postsposted 29th Aug '07
carysehlwinn wrote:threesacharm wrote: Are you serious
well I think i shall agree to disagree on this one.....
I am sure we could debate this one forever
I am quite serious, heh.
Look up the death statistics for alcohol vs. marijuana. You'll find tens of thousands of deaths directly from alcohol, and NONE from marijuana. There will of course be people who get themselves killed doing stupid shit while high, but that is not a death from marijuana, rather from bad judgment.
Also, it has been conclusively proven that though people can become MENTALLY addicted to marijuana (like anything), they do not become physically dependent and do not suffer withdrawal effects. It is not addictive in the manner that alcohol, cigarettes and other drugs are.
I'm certain we won't agree... but the facts don't lie. heh. I didn't make up the death statistics and I didn't write the studies.
C.
Dont be so sure..we would be standing side by side in the support of the medical use of pot..
I watched someone I loved dearly and grew up with die a young terminal death and the only relief he got was from pot...I woulda rolled a big fatty for him if he wanted me too.
Its from that personal experience that I say if you are suffering ..smoke.
I also have loved ones in my life who smoke and judge them not..
Its just for me personally I choose not to smoke pot for various reasons....
Also my hubby can not because he would get fired ...they drug test religiously...I know there ways around that but he chooses not to as well
I also encourage my children to stay away from drugs alcohol & smoking but I do this not as a ignorant judgemental parent but its what I have chosen to do..
I have been witness to some not so good things come from pot as well.
I think you are very well educated on the subject..I cant say that I am, I just have my experiences to draw from. I have always said that its cool we can all have different opinions and I respect that....just didnt want you to think I was being all judgemental.
I live in ?
posted 29th Aug '07
I welcome a discourse on the subject
You haven't come off as judgmental to me.
Sadly, there will always be cases of people allowing any substance to ruin their lives. I just wish more people would look at it as an issue of personal responsibility instead of just "the drug ruined their life" (I say this in general, not to you specifically). No drug, even things like heroin and cocaine are inherently bad, and people who cannot use them responsibly should absolutely not do them. Drug abuse is definitely a problem, but the abuse is the problem, not the drug.
C.
quoteYou haven't come off as judgmental to me.
Sadly, there will always be cases of people allowing any substance to ruin their lives. I just wish more people would look at it as an issue of personal responsibility instead of just "the drug ruined their life" (I say this in general, not to you specifically). No drug, even things like heroin and cocaine are inherently bad, and people who cannot use them responsibly should absolutely not do them. Drug abuse is definitely a problem, but the abuse is the problem, not the drug.
C.
I have 2 kids & live in St. Catharines, Ontario
6905 postsposted 29th Aug '07
well welcome back!!
and i have to say that i dont know what laws you have in canada
but if a doctor told someone to have an illegal drug then they would be put in jail...
but only cause studies have shown that all things you take in goes to baby through breastmilk...
and sense babies are smaller than us then i suppose even the littlest amount you take in gives them the biggest....
ya know?
quoteand i have to say that i dont know what laws you have in canada
but if a doctor told someone to have an illegal drug then they would be put in jail...
but only cause studies have shown that all things you take in goes to baby through breastmilk...
and sense babies are smaller than us then i suppose even the littlest amount you take in gives them the biggest....
ya know?
I have 2 kids & live in Kingsport, Tennessee
posted 29th Aug '07
carysehlwinn wrote: I welcome a discourse on the subject
You haven't come off as judgmental to me.
Sadly, there will always be cases of people allowing any substance to ruin their lives. I just wish more people would look at it as an issue of personal responsibility instead of just "the drug ruined their life" (I say this in general, not to you specifically). No drug, even things like heroin and cocaine are inherently bad, and people who cannot use them responsibly should absolutely not do them. Drug abuse is definitely a problem, but the abuse is the problem, not the drug.
C.
ITA ...thats how I feel on the gun control issue...oh geese but thats for another day....LOL and another forum
thanks for getting me to think today....I am going to check out your political link too.
I live in ?
posted 29th Aug '07
heartsandroses wrote: well welcome back!!
and i have to say that i dont know what laws you have in canada
but if a doctor told someone to have an illegal drug then they would be put in jail...
but only cause studies have shown that all things you take in goes to baby through breastmilk...
and sense babies are smaller than us then i suppose even the littlest amount you take in gives them the biggest....
ya know?
I have to disagree (slightly) with the doctor/jail part in U.S.A. That's true I'd assume in most states, but a few states do have medical marijuana laws on the books, it's much less likely for a doctor to be prosecuted in say, California.
If you have a federal exemption (right now there's only a few hundred in Canada, IIRC) then a doctor can legally prescribe you marijuana here. The conditions you can get marijuana for legally here are somewhat few, at the moment though.
Most people in Canada don't go to jail for marijuana related offenses (that's not to say that none do, but those are usually for dealing charges, not simple possession, or you have possession of ounces which usually indicates that you're dealing, most people just don't have a personal stash that large), usually it's just a fine or community service if you're convicted.
The cannabinoids do pass through in breast milk, but the psychoactive (read: the shit that gets you high, heh) properties don't get transferred. Sometimes it's beneficial because it can encourage a baby to suckle which is good for babies who just won't latch on properly, sometimes it's not because it can diminish your milk supply, but most of the time it has no observable effect either way. It's debatable of course whether or not it should be used during breastfeeding, but the experts still agree that even if you do smoke, you should still breastfeed.
And thanks, for the welcome.
C.
I have 2 kids & live in St. Catharines, Ontario
posted 29th Aug '07
carysehlwinn wrote:heartsandroses wrote: well welcome back!!
and i have to say that i dont know what laws you have in canada
but if a doctor told someone to have an illegal drug then they would be put in jail...
but only cause studies have shown that all things you take in goes to baby through breastmilk...
and sense babies are smaller than us then i suppose even the littlest amount you take in gives them the biggest....
ya know?
I have to disagree (slightly) with the doctor/jail part in U.S.A. That's true I'd assume in most states, but a few states do have medical marijuana laws on the books, it's much less likely for a doctor to be prosecuted in say, California.
If you have a federal exemption (right now there's only a few hundred in Canada, IIRC) then a doctor can legally prescribe you marijuana here. The conditions you can get marijuana for legally here are somewhat few, at the moment though.
Most people in Canada don't go to jail for marijuana related offenses (that's not to say that none do, but those are usually for dealing charges, not simple possession, or you have possession of ounces which usually indicates that you're dealing, most people just don't have a personal stash that large), usually it's just a fine or community service if you're convicted.
The cannabinoids do pass through in breast milk, but the psychoactive (read: the shit that gets you high, heh) properties don't get transferred. Sometimes it's beneficial because it can encourage a baby to suckle which is good for babies who just won't latch on properly, sometimes it's not because it can diminish your milk supply, but most of the time it has no observable effect either way. It's debatable of course whether or not it should be used during breastfeeding, but the experts still agree that even if you do smoke, you should still breastfeed.
And thanks, for the welcome.
C.
lol
okay gotcha
I have 2 kids & live in Kingsport, Tennessee
4323 postsposted 29th Aug '07
I agree to disagree to agree. LOL
I totally get your point and the only thing I have against pot is the fact that my 18 yr old stepson cant breathe without it. Other than that, do whatcha want!
quoteI totally get your point and the only thing I have against pot is the fact that my 18 yr old stepson cant breathe without it. Other than that, do whatcha want!
I have 4 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Hassall Grove, Australia
2325 postsposted 29th Aug '07
I personally think that while there are studies that show that marijauna may not be harmful to breastfed babies, these studies may be wrong. Things change everyday and I am not willing to put my son at even the tiniest risk so I can get high. That is not worth it to me. My son deserves the 100% best care and focus that I can possibly give him and I can't imagine thinking it is a good idea to do ANYTHING that can jeopardize that.
quoteI have 1 child & live in Ohio
2329 postsposted 30th Aug '07
Im just glad i formula feed.
dont have to worry about things like this.
though i wouldnt worry over it if i did breast feed.
*shruggs*
quotedont have to worry about things like this.
though i wouldnt worry over it if i did breast feed.
*shruggs*
I have 1 child & live in Florida
1504 postsposted 30th Aug '07
carysehlwinn wrote: I welcome a discourse on the subject
You haven't come off as judgmental to me.
Sadly, there will always be cases of people allowing any substance to ruin their lives. I just wish more people would look at it as an issue of personal responsibility instead of just "the drug ruined their life" (I say this in general, not to you specifically). No drug, even things like heroin and cocaine are inherently bad, and people who cannot use them responsibly should absolutely not do them. Drug abuse is definitely a problem, but the abuse is the problem, not the drug.
C.
i totally agree with you on this. there are drugs that are used and/or abused that are illegal and there are also those drugs that are used and/or abused that are legally prescribed. doesn't mean the drug, per say, is the problem. there are several beneficial uses for many drugs, even cocaine or heroine. not saying i personally would choose to go that course. but it definitely is a personal responsibility of the user (be it legal or illegal is inconsequential except for in the eyes of the big boys throwing their weight around in legislation). look, for example, at prescribed pain medication and how overly abused it has become in recent years, possibly due to the lack of educated awareness of the patient and possible genetic disposition to addictive behavior more so than to the fact that the medication is "inherently bad or wrong".
just an added point, my sister recently had a c-section. she exclusively breastfeeds. the doctor gives her percocet. a narcotic pain killer. this is okay for her to use while breastfeeding. they encourage her to use this so as not to be in pain so she can PROPERLY take care of her child with SAFE INTENT. she is responsible. she is aware of possible side-effects of the drug to her and the baby. she keeps an eye out for these things and still follows her doctors orders. i myself, if i were in her situation, would follow the orders. however, with the pot smoking, i would most likely wait until my child was weened off before smoking for personal reasons having to do with my personal pleasure (being something that could be sacrificed) in comparison to being hindered by pain (as in my sister's situation). but again, this is my personal opinion which i would make with sound judgement just as i believe you have made yours in the same manner.
just my 2 cents.
I have 1 child & live in Sarasota, Florida
