Quoting Miss Erica .:“ Thanks for linking me here !   My daughter just turned 2a few days ago. When her diaper is wet she ... [snip!] ... signs! Now i'm not sure what to do. We plan on buying a potty asap, but I just don't want to turn her off of potty training.”

Are you on vacation? Did you recently go back to work? Did you have another baby? Are there problems at home or school? Have you moved to a new neighborhood? Has there been a death in the family?

For those who say waiting is best -- let the child lead you -- I have shocking news.

To support my intuition and other mommas' too, here is a very recent study (published just last month) from The Journal of Developmental and Behavioral Pediatrics stating that potty training should be done BEFORE 24 months to help prevent relapses/regression!

"Results: Compared with children whose toilet training was initiated between 15 and 24 months, initiation of toilet training after 24 months was associated with higher odds of membership to the trajectory groups representing persistent daytime wetting, delayed acquisition of daytime bladder control, or relapse in daytime wetting. Adjustment for confounding variables, including sex, developmental delay, difficult temperament, and the mother's self-reported depression, did not alter the main conclusions.

Conclusion: There is evidence that initiating toilet training after 24 months is associated with problems attaining and maintaining bladder control. It is possible that delaying the onset of toilet training until after 2 years prolongs the exposure time to potential stressors that could interfere with the acquisition of bladder control, resulting in delays in achieving continence and susceptibility to relapses in daytime wetting."




This is a study of more than 8000 children! It is statistically significant!
http://journals.lww.com/jrnldbp/Abstract/2009/10000/A_Prospective_Study_of_Age_at_Initiation_of_Toilet.4.aspx

Quoting Animal Guardian:“ Are you on vacation? Did you recently go back to work? Did you have another baby? Are there problems at home or school? Have you moved to a new neighborhood? Has there been a death in the family?”

Absolutley none of that.

And the thing is, whenever she pooped she would be so happy to tell me, and I would make sure to tell her how good it was that she let me know, then I went to the bathroom, put the poop in the toilet, and flushed it, I showed her all i did. And I explained to her that's what Sophia has to do, go on the potty just like Mommy.

Everytime she comes with me to the bathroom I explain things to her, then she washes her hands with me , and we leave the room, and she even turns the light off.

She is a smart girl and knows what she is doing. I am just so shocked at the surprise stopping of it all. I was so excited thinking YES! Here are all of the signs, lets go buy a potty and introduce ita bit.. but now she denies when she poops, and i have to chase her to get her..

She hardly wets her nappy at night time, bc she hardly ever takes a drink beforehand, which I know is another sign..

Now I just feel lost! My mother tells me to keep waiting- but waiting for WHAT?! Is my question.

I am big on child leading, and letting my daughter discover and explore, but I definitly think and know this is something kids need a little "push" in.

Quoting Miss Erica .:“ Absolutley none of that. And the thing is, whenever she pooped she would be so happy to tell me, ... [snip!] ... and letting my daughter discover and explore, but I definitly think and know this is something kids need a little "push" in.”

I'm thinking a couple things.

1. Maybe the novelty wore off and she doesn't want to be bothered so she denies it.

2. She realizes she's growing up and wants to be the baby longer.


But omg omg omg...did you see that study I just linked up?   I'm definitely aiming to have Darwin completely done, if not mostly done by age 2!!

Quoting Animal Guardian:“ I'm thinking a couple things. 1. Maybe the novelty wore off and she doesn't want to be bothered so ... [snip!] ... see that study I just linked up?   I'm definitely aiming to have Darwin completely done, if not mostly done by age 2!!”

Yeah, I just read it! I just realized that I def want her to have interest in it, and I don't want to push her. But kids definitly can't figure it out on their own. They need motivation and a bit of a nudge to get their!

We are going to buy her a potty the latest this weekend, leave it in the bathroom, introduce her to it, and see how it goes from there.

Quoting Miss Erica .:“ Yeah, I just read it! I just realized that I def want her to have interest in it, and I don't want ... [snip!] ... buy her a potty the latest this weekend, leave it in the bathroom, introduce her to it, and see how it goes from there. ”

yeah, the potty chairs seem to have a high success rate based on the mommas who've shared so far.

I have the potty seat (sits on big potty), and Darwin likes that -- but I'm entertaining the idea of a potty chair, too.

Have you done a reward system with a sticker chart?

Quoting Animal Guardian:“ Yeah, she hit that about 3 hrs ago. I hear you get red numbers @ 30,000 and apparently now 60,000”

You get it for every 10K now.  

C.

Quoting Animal Guardian:“ yeah, the potty chairs seem to have a high success rate based on the mommas who've shared so far. I ... [snip!] ... Darwin likes that -- but I'm entertaining the idea of a potty chair, too. Have you done a reward system with a sticker chart?”

No, we haven't done that! I think that is actually a wonderful idea. My question is, when do they stop being rewarded? When you stop, do they think they aren't doing it "right" anymore? I don't want her to think that the sticker thing will last forever.. nor when I stop do I want her to feel as though she has failed at something.

How do you feel about pull ups? I hear the "skipping" stage. But I'm not too sure about that.

And sorry, I wish I read more of the thread but there was so much chatting I missed a lot of the informational stuff, I apologize!

Quoting God:“ You get it for every 10K now.   C.”

ha.

Yeah, I found that out at a lil after 9am this morning!

Quoting Miss Erica .:“ No, we haven't done that! I think that is actually a wonderful idea. My question is, when do they ... [snip!] ... sorry, I wish I read more of the thread but there was so much chatting I missed a lot of the informational stuff, I apologize!”

No problems!

There are a couple ideas floating around currently about the sticker charts.
1. Stickers in and of themselves are rewards (works for some kids).

2. X # of stickers = a reward -- such as a trip to Chuck E Cheeses (or similar), going to the movie theater, going to the library for a book/buying a new book, etc.

3. Start with #1, when you see the incentive is wearing off then transition to #2.


As for stopping, that's an excellent question that hasn't been discussed in much detail thus far.

My initial idea is to increase the amount of stickers to get a reward. But ultimately, how to get off a reward system? I'm not sure!

Quoting Miss Erica .:“ No, we haven't done that! I think that is actually a wonderful idea. My question is, when do they ... [snip!] ... sorry, I wish I read more of the thread but there was so much chatting I missed a lot of the informational stuff, I apologize!”

Whooops, forgot about the pull-ups question!

Some mommas think nighttime PT'ing is a diff set of mental/physical skills, thus making pull-ups necessary.

I'm not convinced. I've always thought if you can do it during the day with no probs then you don't need pull-ups at night. I have always viewed that as sending mixed signals.

I, personally, will have to do further digging to see which side I settle on permanently.

hello i am new in this forum my name is ellen, andmy daughter is 22 months old as of 11/16/09 , and i have been trying to get her on the potty since about 17-18 months. i have had success, but only to a point. she goes #2 on the potty, which is great! but hte downside is i have to watch her constantly because even if i take my eyes off of her for like a minute, she will squat down and poop. like she becomes a mute when it comes to doing #2 and it drives me nuts! like the only time i can get her to go poop on the potty is if i catch her squatting and being quiet, so i grab her hand and we run to the bathroom. can anyone help me out with this dilemma?? thank you!!!

Have you ladies ever read the book "everybody poops"?? A lot of times children are embarrassed when it comes to the poo. That could be the problem.
As far as the sticker chart... I made one for one month and when we were done with it, that was it. She didn't seem to care then because she didn't like the "wet" feeling. We still tell her how proud we are and stuff like that but we will continue to do so. We are corking on her going completely by herself. She will when we are out but she tries not to at home so we always tell her she is such a big girl!

Quoting ellen*loves her Kaeleigh:“ hello i am new in this forum my name is ellen, andmy daughter is 22 months old as of 11/16/09 , and i ... [snip!] ... and being quiet, so i grab her hand and we run to the bathroom. can anyone help me out with this dilemma?? thank you!!!”

Did she used to tell you when she was about to go and has since stopped? Or she's never told you but you've been able to read her signs?


My niece sometimes says she needs to go and many times doesn't. My SIL just has to ask every hour or 1.5 hours. After my niece saying no twice, SIL makes her go into the bathroom and insists she has to try. Then 10 times outta 10 my niece pees.

To me, this means my niece DOES have sphincter control but is not interested in always going to the potty. Esp since recently she got a baby sister. She put a diaper on herself (which takes some skill for a 23 month old!), purposely smurfs in it, and then walks out and says, "I made poo poo in my diaper because I'm a baby."  

Quoting Nichole+3 {O08}:“ Have you ladies ever read the book "everybody poops"?? A lot of times children are embarrassed when it ... [snip!] ... completely by herself. She will when we are out but she tries not to at home so we always tell her she is such a big girl!”

*googling the book now*