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posted 4th Nov
Correct me if I am wrong, but last time I checked there is supposed to be a separation between church and state right? So then why do states keep repealing same-sex marriage laws? I mean seriously, it is 2009 not 1959, when are people going to start to understand that we don't pick and choose who we fall in love with, love pics us. I know this has been said a billion times before, but it is so true that "Marriage is a human right, NOT a heterosexual privilege."

Not really sure what the point of this post is other than why people really can't separate church and state....I actually think it's more of a vent than anything, mostly because I have many close friends and family that are gay and want nothing more than to be allowed the same privileges that any straight couple gets.
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I'm TTC since June '09, have 1 child & live in Katy, Texas
posted 4th Nov
Becaue the government is starting to control everything we do!
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I have 1 child & 1 angel baby & live in Ohio
posted 4th Nov
Let me start off by saying I am all for same sex marriages..


But I think some reasoning behind it, is because marriage started out in the church?? It's origins are quite religious...
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I'm TTC since December '08, have 1 child & live in Minnesota
posted 4th Nov
Because Christians think it's their god given right to control everything. (not all of them, but the one's in the government definitely think this way.)
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I have 1 child & live in Buffalo, New York
posted 4th Nov
Quoting packersgirl30:“ Let me start off by saying I am all for same sex marriages.. But I think some reasoning behind it, is because marriage started out in the church?? It's origins are quite religious...”

Than why is it part of government in the first place? If it's religious, then it should be there to begin with, for anybody.
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I have 1 child & live in Buffalo, New York
posted 4th Nov
Quoting I ♥ My Raven:“ Correct me if I am wrong, but last time I checked there is supposed to be a separation between church ... [snip!] ... friends and family that are gay and want nothing more than to be allowed the same privileges that any straight couple gets.”
I completely agree! I think that it is ridiculous.
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I have 1 child & live in South Carolina
posted 4th Nov
Because thats always been the definition of marriage. Marriage is a religious ceremony, period. The bible says its between a man and a wife. The only reason government got involved in marriage to begin with is because its a way to track people and their name changes and to make money off of the licenses...
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I'm TTC since November '09, have 1 child & live in Georgia
posted 4th Nov
They should take the word marriage out of the government completely and make it so everyone has the same rights under a different name.

Gods, people are so stupid.
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I have 1 child & live in Buffalo, New York
posted 4th Nov
Quoting BeccaShell:“ Because thats always been the definition of marriage. Marriage is a religious ceremony, period. The bible ... [snip!] ... in marriage to begin with is because its a way to track people and their name changes and to make money off of the licenses...”
But there was marriage before there was Christianity (ancient Greeks got married, ancient Egyptians got married, etc.) so that's not a valid argument for them to use.
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I have 5 kids & live in Indianapolis, Indiana
posted 4th Nov
Quoting The Satanic Bitch:“ They should take the word marriage out of the government completely and make it so everyone has the same rights under a different name. Gods, people are so stupid.”

Why would opposite sex marriage have to change to? If same sex want rights, fine. But why would it have to change for everyone?
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I have 1 child & live in Georgia
posted 4th Nov
There was still religion, Christianity isnt the only religion out there...
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I'm TTC since November '09, have 1 child & live in Georgia
posted 4th Nov
Quoting packersgirl30:“ Let me start off by saying I am all for same sex marriages.. But I think some reasoning behind it, is because marriage started out in the church?? It's origins are quite religious...”

And that is one reason we should and do have separation of church and state....not that anyone actually follows it
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I'm TTC since June '09, have 1 child & live in Katy, Texas
posted 4th Nov
Quoting deleting  :“ Why would opposite sex marriage have to change to? If same sex want rights, fine. But why would it have to change for everyone?”

Because if you don't, then you still have religion in the government. Here are your options:

Give gays the right to marry, same as everyone else and just live with it because it's not like it's taking anything away from you.

or

If you think Marriage is a religious institution, then take the word marriage out of the government, it should be there in the first place if it's relgious, and just make everything thats "legalized" a civil union and give everyone the same rights.
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I have 1 child & live in Buffalo, New York
posted 4th Nov
The term marriage is not a legal term it's a religious term. I believe that in many states that made gay marriage illegal they can still have civil unions that declare them husband and husband or wife and wife. But many insurance compaines do not accept civil unions which is why many people were pushing for gay marriage. I just don't get how a gay couple marrying impacts any one elses marriage. I think it's time christians start practicing the acceptance that they preach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm due May 29th, have 1 child & live in Pennsylvania
posted 4th Nov
Quoting BeccaShell:“ There was still religion, Christianity isnt the only religion out there...”
True, but try telling the religious right that. 
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I have 5 kids & live in Indianapolis, Indiana
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