re: Is suicide always selfish?

Quoting God:“ I haven't been suicidal since I've had kids, but I was for a lot of years before that... and the only ... [snip!] ... I also understand it... when you're that depressed, it seems kind of like mercy to not leave them behind, without you. C.”

I couldn't do that to my dad. I am so incredibly close to my father. We're like best friends. He is the one that kept me alive after Ethan passed, because honestly, I was like what the fuck else do I have to live for?

Quoting Slytherins Heiress:“ I was preoccupied with death quite often. The 'attempt' was spontaneous. I spent a few days running ... [snip!] ... my head and offing the girls along with myself was one of my favoured ways because then I wouldn't leave them motherless.”

I can understand that. It seems kind of cruel to leave them behind... or even worse. Have them find you.

Quoting God:“ I haven't been suicidal since I've had kids, but I was for a lot of years before that... and the only ... [snip!] ... I also understand it... when you're that depressed, it seems kind of like mercy to not leave them behind, without you. C.”

Yeah and its why I get so effing annoyed so quickly when people just call the mother a horrible person and say things like 'How could someone do that?'

I'm always in the minority because the ones that understand are few and far between or are too ashamed to admit they thought that once too.

I say 'Life is never so bad that one has to kill oneself' because there has to be something worthwhile in one's life.

It never sounds like one was suicidal when they talk about it because you've had the chance to be retrospective and muddle through the illogical reasoning during that time. I don't understand my mindset 100% but I understand enough to know that my kids were the sole reason I never went through with it.

When I dropped the bottle and cried, I didn't care why I didn't do it; I was just grateful something made me stop.

I believe that it is always a selfish act, but sometimes mental illness disrupts the ability to realize such a thing.

Quoting Emma♥Ethan:“ I believe it was yesterday that I posted a topic in FFA with a poll asking how many people have either ... [snip!] ... exactly on your side. What are your true feelings concerning suicide? Is it a selfish act, regardless of the circumstances?”

In my case.. the guy i dated for 2 years.. told me over and over that he would kill himself while i was on the phone so i would feel guilty my whole life.. then he did.. he was extremely selfish....as far as EVERYONE being selfish..i am not sure.. I think its a completely different mind state then what anyone that has never been there can't understand...

Quoting Slytherins Heiress:“ Yeah and its why I get so effing annoyed so quickly when people just call the mother a horrible person ... [snip!] ... with it. When I dropped the bottle and cried, I didn't care why I didn't do it; I was just grateful something made me stop.”

I can Idenetify with you completely I had PPD so bad after Kat was born and my ex left me I didn't kill myself because I couldn't burden anyone with my daughter. She is the only reason I truly believe I am here today.

That being said Abie

I can identify with you as well my best friend in middle school did the same thing as your ex well kinda, she talked about it all the time and then one day she was gone.