re: Am I wrong?

Quoting Vagina Lady *BOSM*:“ I wouldn't trust it. I mean I have BEEN THERE. Looking back, I am like how the fuckkkkkk was I ... [snip!] ... was I so dumb. How did I let him manipulate me? How did he get under my skin? Why did I give him a THIRD chance anyway?”

I don't.

I just don't understand how he can do this when he knows I can see through his lies, I have before.

I even told him, if he just told me the truth and let me see the phone, then I wouldnt leave. We'd be able to work it out. But he still refused.

Quoting Jenny the Wicked:“ I've tried kicking him out too. He flat refuses to leave.”

Does your mom live nearby? Maybe for a day or two, you and your son can leave and go there (or to a friends house or something). Don't answer your phone, don't talk to him after saying "You don't want me around and wanna lie? Fine. We'll just leave you to your games then."



And do it.
Follow through.

Quoting ♥Niko♥BGFM:“ Does your mom live nearby? Maybe for a day or two, you and your son can leave and go there (or to a friends ... [snip!] ... saying "You don't want me around and wanna lie? Fine. We'll just leave you to your games then." And do it. Follow through.”

That's what I've been thinking about... going to my moms.

I guess I just keep waiting, hoping he will take the opportunity to just show me and end this whole thing.

Quoting Jenny the Wicked:“ That's what I've been thinking about... going to my moms. I guess I just keep waiting, hoping he will take the opportunity to just show me and end this whole thing.”

Honestly, I think this is a good idea.
Sometimes people don't understand exactly what is on the line until they are faced with it.
I truly hope you guys can work it out and he comes clean to you, at least for his sons sake.

Quoting Colleen13:“ Honestly, I think this is a good idea. Sometimes people don't understand exactly what is on the line ... [snip!] ... until they are faced with it. I truly hope you guys can work it out and he comes clean to you, at least for his sons sake.”

Thanks hun. I appreciate the advice.

Quoting Jenny the Wicked:“ That's what I've been thinking about... going to my moms. I guess I just keep waiting, hoping he will take the opportunity to just show me and end this whole thing.”

Men are stubborn as all hell, he won't budge unless you show him you mean business.


Definitely follow through and leave for a couple of days or something.
Something my mom told me to do when my husband did some shitty stuff a few years ago...
Was to wait until he was out of the house, pack my stuff, my son's stuff, and just go somewhere else....then she told me to leave some apartment fliers on the kitchen table.

She said that would get him to STFU and grow up...
It worked too.

Quoting Colleen13:“ Honestly, I think this is a good idea. Sometimes people don't understand exactly what is on the line ... [snip!] ... until they are faced with it. I truly hope you guys can work it out and he comes clean to you, at least for his sons sake.”

   

Quoting Jenny the Wicked:“ I told him I was going to leave him last night. He let me walk out of the house. Mind you, he did look ... [snip!] ... ruin our family but like I said, I can't be with someone I can't trust. And honestly, I don't think he really believes I will.”

No, I mean more major than that unfortunately. My husband has let me walk out of the house too, took a lot more than that to fix him.

Quoting ♥Niko♥BGFM:“ Men are stubborn as all hell, he won't budge unless you show him you mean business. Definitely follow ... [snip!] ... told me to leave some apartment fliers on the kitchen table. She said that would get him to STFU and grow up... It worked too.”

That's a pretty good idea.

Perhaps I will try talking with him again tonight and tell him if he doesn't show me everything (which I'm sure he's already deleted) then I walk.

And I'll talk to my mom today too,.

Quoting Snotface :]:“ No, I mean more major than that unfortunately. My husband has let me walk out of the house too, took a lot more than that to fix him.”

What else is there?

Quoting Jenny the Wicked:“ What else is there?”

You wouldnt believe me if I told you.  

Quoting Snotface :]:“ You wouldnt believe me if I told you.  ”

At this point, I would.

If you feel comfortable in saying, I'd like to know.

Quoting Jenny the Wicked:“ That's a pretty good idea. Perhaps I will try talking with him again tonight and tell him if he doesn't ... [snip!] ... him if he doesn't show me everything (which I'm sure he's already deleted) then I walk. And I'll talk to my mom today too,.”

That gives him the idea that you don't mean business. I think talking to your mom first might be a good idea, see what she says about it.

But really, if you want him to change, you gotta be drastic...giving him that forewarning gives him the chance to try and delete things and be sneaky. If he knows there's consequences for his actions, he might just change, especially if he truly doesn't want you and his kid to leave.

It's hard and I understand not wanting to do stuff like that, but sometimes it takes something big and drastic like that to get it through the man's thick skull.

After what I did to him, Jon has changed a lot. He's still annoying sometimes, but he definitely doesn't hide shit from me anymore. I can actually trust him. I don't check his stuff, because I know he's not doing it anymore.

Quoting ♥Niko♥BGFM:“ That gives him the idea that you don't mean business. I think talking to your mom first might be a good ... [snip!] ... doesn't hide shit from me anymore. I can actually trust him. I don't check his stuff, because I know he's not doing it anymore.”

That's all I want and I just don't know if I can ever get to that point now.

Well I did see the pages in the browser history. If he deletes it, I'll know and then it really will make him guilty.

I showed him this post so I could prove to him that I am not crazy in feeling that he is hiding something. He says:

"Look I understand where you are coming form I really do but like I said last night I'm doing this for me and I don't think you understand that"