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Was America founded on Christianity?

No, America was not founded on one specific religion.
Yes, America was founded on Christianity.
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Was America founded on Christianity?

posted 2nd Nov
Bobbert's poll of the day. What do you think? This doesn't have to do with religion today so put your religious beliefs to the side for a second to answer this. There have been numerous facts proving that America was not founded on one specific religion, even a historical document that flat out says it, but apparently some people still choose to argue and believe it was for some reason.

Just want to know what people think!

   
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I'm due March 15th (a boy) & live in Maine
posted 2nd Nov
I thought the whole reasonsettlers came here was for freedom of religion AND fewer taxes lol
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I have 3 kids & live in California
posted 2nd Nov
I think it was founded on Christian values but not on Christianity as a whole.
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I have 1 child & 1 angel baby & live in United States
posted 2nd Nov
No.

Many of the founding fathers weren't Christians, and theywanted to be free of religious persecution.

Not only that but I'm sure people will remember "Freedom of Religion" and that there is no national or enforced religion. So no, it definitely was not.
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I live in Colorado
posted 2nd Nov
I think it was founded on christian principles... maybe'

but i havent done the research
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I'm TTC since October '09 & live in California
posted 2nd Nov
no, it most definitely wasn't and i'm pretty sure anyone who says it was is just letting their religion bias them. although i'm not sure how admitting that a country wasn't founded on one specific religion would be going against what you believe.
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I'm due January 3rd (a boy), have 2 kids & live in Michigan
posted 2nd Nov
No,it was founded on the basis of following any religion/or none at all you like. It was about having a choice and not being made to follow anything.
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I have 1 child & live in Texas
posted 2nd Nov
I'm going to repost this here just in case anybody is actually interested in this topic:






The Treaty of Tripoli

Unlike most governments of the past, the American Founding Fathers set up a government divorced from any religion. Their establishment of a secular government did not require a reflection to themselves of its origin; they knew this as a ubiquitous unspoken given. However, as the United States delved into international affairs, few foreign nations knew about the intentions of the U.S. For this reason, an insight from at a little known but legal document written in the late 1700s explicitly reveals the secular nature of the U.S. goverenment to a foreign nation. Officially called the "Treaty of peace and friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli, of Barbary," most refer to it as simply the Treaty of Tripoli. In Article 11, it states:

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries." [bold text, mine]
Click here to see the actual article 11 of the Treaty

The preliminary treaty began with a signing on 4 November, 1796 (the end of George Washington's last term as president). Joel Barlow, the American diplomat served as counsel to Algiers and held responsibility for the treaty negotiations. Barlow had once served under Washington as a chaplain in the revolutionary army. He became good friends with Paine, Jefferson, and read Enlightenment literature. Later he abandoned Christian orthodoxy for rationalism and became an advocate of secular government. Joel Barlow wrote the original English version of the treaty, including Amendment 11. Barlow forwarded the treaty to U.S. legislators for approval in 1797. Timothy Pickering, the secretary of state, endorsed it and John Adams concurred (now during his presidency), sending the document on to the Senate. The Senate approved the treaty on June 7, 1797, and officially ratified by the Senate with John Adams signature on 10 June, 1797. All during this multi-review process, the wording of Article 11 never raised the slightest concern. The treaty even became public through its publication in The Philadelphia Gazette on 17 June 1797.

So here we have a clear admission by the United States in 1797 that our government did not found itself upon Christianity. Unlike the Declaration of Independence, this treaty represented U.S. law as all U.S. Treaties do (see the Constitution, Article VI, Sect.2: "This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof, and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every State shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.")

Although the Treaty of Tripoli under agreement only lasted a few years and no longer has legal status, it clearly represented the feelings of our Founding Fathers at the beginning of the American government.
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I'm due March 21st (a girl) & live in Panama City, Florida
posted 2nd Nov
Quoting Cartman:“ No. Many of the founding fathers weren't Christians, and theywanted to be free of religious persecution. ... [snip!] ... people will remember "Freedom of Religion" and that there is no national or enforced religion. So no, it definitely was not.”

Agreed.

When people say we are a "Christian nation" - I hope they are referring to the fact that the majority are Christians.
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I'm due December 25th (a girl), have 1 child & live in Oregon
posted 2nd Nov
To everyone who voted yes,could you elaborate and give proof.
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I have 3 kids & live in Michigan
posted 2nd Nov
IDK, but I don't think it should've been founded on any religion!
Being that "we" came here, stole the land from the natives, raped, and then killed them... Doesn't sound very "godlike" behavior to me... .
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I have 3 kids & live in Venezuela
posted 2nd Nov
Ok so where are the 24 people who voted "yes"?
I'd like to hear their point of views....
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I have 1 child & live in Lake Arrowhead, California
posted 2nd Nov
Not founded on Christianity. But, many of the founding fathers were Deists who respected the teachings of Christ, while not necessarily being Christians themselves. While they respected Christian principles, the country was set up for religious freedom.
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I'm TTC since September '09, have 1 child & live in Tennessee
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