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Zooper Waltz wins! (v Zooper Hula, P3 and Zippy)

posted 22nd Mar '06
I looked very carefully at all the similar strollers in this price range. The 3 that are most similar are the Peg P3, the Zooper Hula, and the Inglesina Zippy for $300. The Zooper Waltz is almost the same except for a few features and it is $100 less. Note there are changes in the 2006 models, which I am comparing. I test drove ALL of these strollers at the stores. The information is from looking at the models they had in-store.

First, a comparison of similarities of all 4:
weight
dimensions
recline
one hand fold
harness
washable
infant car seat adaptable

The P3, Hula, and Zippy also have:
adjustable handles ~39-41" (waltz has a bar at 40")
umbrella fold (Waltz has "telescope" fold)
flexible front footrest

Differences:

1. Toddler footrest: The P3 is the only one with a toddler footrest, although my child did not like it as it was hard to stand on. Also it cannot be used if the backrest is reclined. You can get little footboards for ~$60-80 ifyou have a second, older child.

2. Folding/unfolding: The Zippy takes one step to fold, although they ALL have "one hand" folds this year. For example, for the P3, takes 3 steps to fold: you have to first release one handle, then the other, then release a lower handle. Note, last years P3 model needed two hands to simultaneously release the upper handles. The Waltz has a "telescopic" fold and takes two steps to fold, but I still did it one-handed. To unfold, they are all about the same except for the Waltz again. I personally found the Waltz easiest to work: with the umbrella folds you have to kind-of throw them around and put your weight into it more--but this is more just a personal taste thing.

3. Adjustable legrests: The Zoopers and the P3 footrests adjust to 90 degrees upright, but the Inglesina does NOT. This was a big deal for me as it was a major feature I was looking for. The Zoopers have zippers on the sides to keep the footrest from lowering which they call a safety zip.

4. Front bumper/tray: The P3 comes with BOTH a tray and a bumper, the others just have a bumper. Snack trays by other manufacturers can be purchased separately

5. Backrest: the Waltz, P3, and Zippy all have about hte same cushioning, but the Hula doesn't have the side cushions, and when you bring the backrest up from a recline position, the netting kind of bunches up in front on the sides. I didn't like that at all. Altough I think it is expected to use the "sleeping bag" in it and then the sides don't get in the way.

6. Baskets: the undercarriage basket is notoriously hard to use with umbrella folding strollers. The Waltz is much easier to access.

7. Rear brakes and stair use: the only one I test drove on stairs is the Zooper, and I didnt think about it when I bought it, but I know alot of strollers can't be pulled up stairs because their brakes get in the way. I am looking at pictures of the Zippy and it looks liike those won't go on stairs but the P3 will. If this is important to you, be sure before you buy.

8. Front footrest: the umbrella strollers all have the flexible footrests in front. Now I'm not sure about high end models, but I have had other strollers that these break and also didn't really work so well for climbing in and out as the baby gets older and they like to climb by themselves. The Waltz has a hard plastic front footrest, which my toddler can use, and it also seems alot sturdier.

9. Accessories: The P3 does NOT come with a boot, another feature I really wanted. As far as other accessories I'm not really sure except for the Waltz (and I think the Hula too), which came with a boot and rain and sun shades which I think is awesome. I know the Zippy also comes with a boot but I'm not sure about any other accessories. Check these out as they add to the total price if you buy covers from another manufacturer (they also dont look as nice). I didn't like the Hula's sleeping bag as it seemed too warm for year-round use.

10. Price: the Waltz is $100 less and comes with a boot, and rain and sun shades

11. Colors close to black: The P3 comes in this sorta dark brown sorta gray blackish color, the Zippy comes in Navy, and the Zoopers come in Blackish, but the Waltz has this funky orange trim. They all come in other colors too, but I wasn't considering those.

12. Handling: I test drove all of these and there is a difference in how they handle. I think the Zoopers have a lower center of gravity so they handle better. Also, when I test drove both the Inglesina and the P3, they seemed to get wobbly. I first test drove the P3 and it was fine, then I went back to the store two weeks later and it seemed like the nuts had "loosened up" or something with time spent on the floor. I only drove the Inglesina once, and it seemed that way. So far, my Waltz is fine.

13. Cupholder: the P3 is the only one with a cupholder but I've heard it is a "joke" and those with P3s ended up getting other ones.

Pluses of the Waltz: PRICE! basket, fold, bar handle, boot. I really love my Waltz. My favorite features are the fold, the handle and the boot. I found out I prefer a bar handle, and the 1" adjustment didn't really make a diference to my taller husband. I LOVE the fold-it is much easier for me than an umbrella fold. And I am glad I was able to get a boot with this model cuz secondary manufacturer covers don't work as well or look as nice (the Hula has a sleeping bag but looks too warm and cumbersome). I managed to forego my desire for a toddler footrest too since they aren't really usable and will get a back board for my older child.

Why I chose the Waltz by process of elimination:

P3--wobbly, no boot, (+toddler footrest, +snack tray). The wobbliness of the P3 is what made me ultimately reject the P3, which I had thought I was going to get before the second test drive since I was really hoping to get adjustable handles and the toddler footrest (even tho it didn't have a boot). This one has both a tray and bar too don't forget and looks like it goes upstairs

Inglesina Zippy--inferior legrest adjustment, wobbly. Rejected because of the limited adjustment footrest and then also after the wobbly test drive.

Hula- "bunching" backrest. It was a close race between the Hula and P3, and they're very similar. I almost bought the Hula after driving the P3, but I didn't like the backrest. Like I said, without side cushions, the sides bunched up and looked awful.

Each of these maufacturers has a website and can be shipped. There are also other websites that sell these that give shipping discounts etc so find the one that suits you best. If you can though, I would buy locally in case something goes wrong with the stroller you don't have to ship it. Also, keep your box cuz some won't take them back without them.

A plug here: if you are going to buy a stroller, I like this website: letsgostrolling.com. They have many high-end strollers (no Pegs tho) and they are very nice. They also have a store in Oakland CA and it is a small,women-owned business. That is where I bought my Zooper.
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I live in Texas
posted 22nd Mar '06
I have considered these strollers myself except for the Zippy which I knew I didn't want.

However I do have to point out that the Zippy is the one that comes with both the snack tray and bumper bar for 2006. It also has a toddler step in the back like the P3.
I believe the P3 only comes with the snack tray; no bumper/front bar though this can be purchased separately.

I agree about the Zooper Waltz. Tested it this past weekend and loved it and the price considering that it comes with all those accessories. It was confusing for me as I was already decided on which strollers to purchase before I found the Waltz. I didn't want to love it but it was too late. I asked myself if I would still love it if it was $300 instead of $200 and the answer was yes. You also can't beat the customer service at Zooper.

I agree with you about letsgostrolling. They are pretty great over there.
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I live in Minnesota
posted 10th Apr '06
For some reason, the P3 no longer comes with a snack tray anymore - it comes with a bumper bar now. I haven't found many places that sell the snack tray - only on Ebay for $70 from the UK...
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I live in Connecticut
posted 10th Apr '06
If you are talking about the 06 P3, they should come with the snack tray. BRU has them. I have never seen them in stores without the snack tray. Only babyage.com seems to have them without. They have the front bar instead.

monasze wrote: For some reason, the P3 no longer comes with a snack tray anymore - it comes with a bumper bar now. I haven't found many places that sell the snack tray - only on Ebay for $70 from the UK...
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I live in Minnesota
posted 1st Jun '06
Hi!

I am really leaning toward purchasing the Zooper Waltz but, I can't find one to test drive in my area. Can you tell me about the sunshade? Is is removable and how far down does it come? (I am asking b/c we tested out the P3 and LOVE the sunshade. Also is the 5 point harness convertable to a 3 point harness? Does it handle well on pavement and sidewalks? The review on the hula says it's only good for the mall... smooth surfaces...

Thanks for your time!!!
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I live in Rhode Island
posted 2nd Jun '06
I am not sure if you are talking about the attached canopy or the accessory UV cover that goes over the stroller. I am thinking you mean the canopy...

Canopy: totally removeable. It also has a zipper pocket which I LOOOVE because I put my wallet and sunglasses in there. I think the canopy is just about the same as the others. It comes all the way down to the stroller bar and protects the kiddie inside if sitting up. There is a window too that the child can see out of which my toddler loves. It is also standard with a rain and UV cover which is aweomse. One thing tho if the back is reclined, the shade doesn't cover so must use a blanket-or the included UV cover-but I think they're all like that.

Harness: covertible between 5 and 3 point.

Handling: the only time I found it hard to handle is on smooth store surfaces. I don't know why but it is very hard to steer if the floor is too slick. I've never had this trouble with other strollers and I find it kind of weird. It happens only in some stores with certain types of floors. I have to tilt the stroller to get it to turn. On pavement etc. it is just fine.

More: You will have to get a cupholder and not having a snack tray is quite a bother, so will probably want one too. The basket underneath is so much nicer than the others and I am still really liking the type of fold it has. Plus it fits in the back of my 99 RAV 4 without having to folding it.
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I live in Texas
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