Marijuana and the Bible.

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posted 5th Apr '07
King James Version

Genesis 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Genesis 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

New International Version

Genesis 29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.

Genesis 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

The Bible does not offer a stance on smoking marijuana, so it's fair to claim that God does not condone smoking marijuana (it's equally fair to claim he does condone it as there's no actual reference re: smoking marijuana, but that's irrelevant to this argument, so moving on...).

If you believe however, that the Bible is the literal word of God, then God has clearly provided marijuana to his children for food. Marijuana is a green, seed bearing plant, and God has given every green plant on the earth for food.

Only one of two possibilities can be true:

Either the Bible is the literal word of God, and marijuana is provided by God to us to eat, or marijuana was not put here for us to eat, making it impossible for the Bible to be the literal word of God by virtue of this one passage at least being wrong.

Before responding, please read again that I am not making the case that *smoking* marijuana is acceptable according to the Bible. Using it for food however, is.

It also follows that if the Bible is the literal word of God, and that all green seed bearing plants are provided for food by God, then it's not wrong to use cannabis in food and that specific use should be legal as God's laws should supersede that of man.

C.
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I have 2 kids & live in Saint Catharines, Ontario
posted 5th Apr '07
That's how I figure it. Eat it, don't smoke it. Gives you the same high when you use a bong.
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I have 2 kids & 4 angel babies & live in Clearlake, California
posted 5th Apr '07
I think its purpose on earth wasn't to get "high".

I found some scripture, its debatable but drunkeness could be considered the same thing as getting high.

But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17 For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. 19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, 21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. 24 And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

—Galatians 5:16-24
Ephesians 5:15-21
15 Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise, 16 making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. 17 Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is. 18 And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit, 19 addressing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with your heart, 20 giving thanks always and for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, 21 submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ.

—Ephesians 5:15-21
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I have 4 kids & live in California
posted 5th Apr '07
There are also several passages about being of a sober state of mind.
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I have 4 kids & live in California
posted 5th Apr '07
what about poppies.

He gave those too right? but opium isnt too great to get hooked on lol. just sayin.....

cause i know opium aint pot....i guess opium isnt green either lol. still then what about nightshade? thats green and poisonous.
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I have 5 kids & live in Satans Kingdom, Vermont
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posted 5th Apr '07
prenitaann wrote: what about poppies.

He gave those too right? but opium isnt too great to get hooked on lol. just sayin.....

cause i know opium aint pot....i guess opium isnt green either lol. still then what about nightshade? thats green and poisonous.


Poppies need to be refined into opium.

Marijuana is grown as is, and can be put into food without any refining or tampering.

Nightshade may be poisonous, but according to the Bible, if it's a seed bearing plant, God gave it for food. You can exercise your discretion not to partake of nightshade (or cannabis), but if the Bible is the word of God, then he gave it for food, therefore he sanctions it's use in such a capacity.

I personally don't believe in the infallibility of the Bible, but for those that do, those that believe it is the literal Word of God, based on this they must then accept that marijuana is acceptable to be used as food, according to God.

The Bible can't both be the literal Word of God, directly inspired by God to it's writers to be free from error, and wrong about cannabis being put on earth for eating. It's either all true, including the part about cannabis, or it's not the inspired work of God.

C.
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I have 2 kids & live in Saint Catharines, Ontario
posted 5th Apr '07
cool.


i completely get what you are saying.  [/img]
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I have 5 kids & live in Satans Kingdom, Vermont
posted 6th Apr '07
Isn't it the drying of the plant that makes the crystals, which have the THC? Plucking a leaf off of the plant isn't going to give you that "high" that is achieved when dried and smoke or baked, right?
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I have 2 kids & 3 angel babies & live in North Carolina
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posted 6th Apr '07
2happy wrote: Isn't it the drying of the plant that makes the crystals, which have the THC? Plucking a leaf off of the plant isn't going to give you that "high" that is achieved when dried and smoke or baked, right?


That's incorrect, though you are correct that drying does make cannabis more potent (in a sense).

The crystal is formed as the plant grows, once it's harvested nothing continues to grow on the plant. Some people use leaf in cooking/baking, but it's generally rare. The large fan leaves are nearly useless in cooking, they have such low THC content, they're usually thrown out or used to make bubble hash. The "sugar leaves" which come off the buds are sometimes used in cooking. Most who use it in cooking/baking, at least commercially, use buds as it's the most efficient method.

Wet buds are nearly impossible to smoke because they just won't burn. There's no problem using them in cooking or baking. They still have THC, and will still achieve the desired effect. Dried bud is generally preferable for cooking, though.

Where drying is an issue is usually with selling. The bud still has the same amount of THC whether wet or dry, but the weight is made up of multiple things. Water is a huge part of the weight before it's dried. So, 1 ounce of dried cannabis will have much more THC than 1 ounce of wet cannabis because the wet cannabis is so much heavier, but the actual bud has the same amount of THC either way.

With regards to the Biblical impact, the Bible is silent on allowable methods of preparation before using the plants as food. Were it true that the plant did need to be dried for the THC to form, that wouldn't contravene God's decree that he made the plant for humans to use as food.

C.
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I have 2 kids & live in Saint Catharines, Ontario
posted 6th Apr '07
you know I never thought of it that way ... thats interesting you pointed that out  

its like the story of "adam and eve". To me it is a stoy about sex. "Snake-penis, Apple well u know lol"

Grandma was the one who said that to me, and in college I had the OT as a course and I pointed that out, OMG what a dicussion I had for a week. Almost everyone in class hated me for that week for saying that lol


To me the Bible is one big sex book... because they never say the word 'sex' .. they just describe it.

JMO peeps! ;)
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I have 2 kids & live in Georgia
posted 7th Apr '07
yes well God did makes these herbs and plants but he did not intend for people to abuse them and use them as drugs to get high off of...okay..i dont think you see that point...
It wouldnt be illegal to use if people didnt abuse the drug....(or i should say herb)
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I have 4 kids & live in Kingsport, Tennessee
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posted 7th Apr '07
heartsandroses wrote: yes well God did makes these herbs and plants but he did not intend for people to abuse them and use them as drugs to get high off of...okay..i dont think you see that point...
It wouldnt be illegal to use if people didnt abuse the drug....(or i should say herb)


You are avoiding my question.

Is it, or is it not OK, according to the Word of God, to use marijuana as food?

It's a pretty cut and dry question.

God decreed in Genesis that all seed bearing plants be used as food. Who are you, a mere mortal, to decide what God did and did not intend when he made that statement? Isn't that a gross arrogance on your part?

Logically, if God made marijuana with psychoactive substances, and God commanded in Genesis that all seed bearing plants be used by his children as food, then God knows full well that humans will react to the psychoactive substances, and condones it.

To say otherwise means that you don't believe that the Bible is the literal Word of God, because that's how it's written in the Bible. If that's how it's written, and God inspired the writers to put down his Word free from error, then it must be true.

Correct?

C.
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I have 2 kids & live in Saint Catharines, Ontario
posted 8th Apr '07
yes you can use herbs as food GOD made them as food...BUT he did NOT make them as a substance to abuse and smoke...just like TOBACCO!!!!!
people have abused the herb okay...so as of right now according to LAW it is not right and is ILLEGAL...okay....
maybe if people wouldnt abuse the many types of foods on earth then they wouldnt have been made to be illegal...AND people wouldnt die from cancer by smoking  

okay..and yes i think i DID answer your question previously..
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I have 4 kids & live in Kingsport, Tennessee
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posted 8th Apr '07
heartsandroses wrote: yes you can use herbs as food GOD made them as food...BUT he did NOT make them as a substance to abuse and smoke...just like TOBACCO!!!!!


I didn't say that he made marijuana to smoke, I said he made it for food.

Quote: people have abused the herb okay...so as of right now according to LAW it is not right and is ILLEGAL...okay....


No, that's not why, but that's irrelevant to this discussion. By the way, does this mean that you accept Mans law above that of God?

Quote: maybe if people wouldnt abuse the many types of foods on earth then they wouldnt have been made to be illegal...AND people wouldnt die from cancer by smoking  


Again, what does smoking have to do with God providing marijuana to his children for food?

Quote: okay..and yes i think i DID answer your question previously..


No, you didn't.

Though you have now. Glad to know that you agree that it's OK to use marijuana as food because God created it for that purpose.

C.
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I have 2 kids & live in Saint Catharines, Ontario
posted 9th Apr '07
no it still isnt OK with me even though God created it...
the reason it is NOT OK...is because so many cannot handle the food and abuse and since they have made it illegal to use..then it is not OK...

maybe if people didnt abuse Gods creations then I could say i thought it was OK...but in todays society..NOPE it isnt....
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I have 4 kids & live in Kingsport, Tennessee
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