Vaccination: Researching the Issue

Vaccination can be a very touchy subject. While it is a generally widely accepted practice, it is becoming increasingly controversial in light of recent legal developments, different interpretations of safety data, and media coverage.

For the sake of our children, all parents have an obligation to be fully informed of everything that goes into their children's bodies. However, a simple internet search can produce so much conflicting information on the subject it can make a parent's head spin.

This sticky is dedicated to parents who wish to discuss the issue and exchange resources for research. Please be respectful of other people's views.

I'd like to start by sharing this information from the National Vaccine Information Center:
http://www.nvic.org/faqs.aspx#32

Informed Consent

What is informed consent and how does it apply to vaccination?

A:Informed consent has been the central ethical principle of the practice of modern medicine since the Nuremberg Code was issued by the Nuremberg Tribunal after World War II. Although the Nuremberg Code specifically addressed the human right for human beings to give their voluntary informed consent to participate in scientific experiments, theFirst Principle of the Nuremberg Codehas become an ethical standard for allowing patients to give their voluntary consent to engage in medical interventions that carry a risk of harm.


Exemption Information:
http://forum.baby-gaga.com/about1222179.html
Please don't make vaccine decisions based on fear, or vaccinate only because you think you HAVE to since schools and daycares "require" it. Every state has vaccine exemptions, meaning you don't REALLY have to vaccinate for school or daycare, despite what you may have heard.

Learn about your rights by visiting this page:

http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements.aspx

I just love your posts..your so informational...lol...i think a lot of parents arent educated that they even have a say in the matter..i know that until my first son was 18 months my doctor told me he HAD to have them...and the booklet they hand out makes it sound like the symptoms are very rare and arent a big deal...

Just thought I would share a GREAT book i invested in before my daughter's 2 month shots were supposed to be given. "The Vaccine Book" by Robert Sears. It has everything you need to know about shots for your child's ENTIRE life!!! It really helped me decide whether or not to vaccinate my daughter. I don't know what I would have done without it!!

I was watching either on the news or on the Doctors, about how vaccines RARELY harm any child, allergic reactiosn and such do occur, but it's not something they would give if it was happening chronically. And there is NO link to vaccines and autism, some monkeys have shown signs, but that doesn't mean anything for humans, yet. there is nothing that is crazy harmful like some people said mercury in any vaccines used NOW. There used to be. And parents are just being selfish if they don't atleast try (some children have serious issues and can't be vaccinated, yes) to have their children vaccinated cause then there can be serious outbreaks that could have easily been prevented.

I know your post didn't say anything about this, and yours was very informational. But I know how some moms feel, haha.

Quoting Brittni+2:“ I just love your posts..your so informational...lol...i think a lot of parents arent educated that they ... [snip!] ... me he HAD to have them...and the booklet they hand out makes it sound like the symptoms are very rare and arent a big deal...”

Thanks...that's what I want to explore with other parents...exactly how "rare" are these serious reactions? My daughter had an alarming reaction which I now know is not all that rare. However, there is a great deal of denial and downplaying in the medical community when it comes to vaccine reactions. The neurological or immunological issues thatcertain children experiencesoon after vaccination are often dismisssed as having nothing at all to do with the shots, even though these are documented risks and included in the packet inserts as possible side effects.

Quoting Riley[Waiting for Olivia]:“ I was watching either on the news or on the Doctors, about how vaccines RARELY harm any child, allergic ... [snip!] ... I know your post didn't say anything about this, and yours was very informational. But I know how some moms feel, haha.”

There is mercury in some shots still!! Just not as much as there used to be!

Quoting EmmaGrace:“ Thanks...that's what I want to explore with other parents...exactly how "rare" are these serious reactions? ... [snip!] ... all to do with the shots, even though these are documented risks and included in the packet inserts as possible side effects.”

that's horrible if they're just dismissing them. Here they make you sit tehre for 20 minutes after your baby gets a shot and tells us if ANY thing seems abnormal to come in. and they will run crap loads of tests. Obviously they happen, but if they were super common, happening to like 1 out of every 5 children, that vaccine would obviously be rethought.

Quoting ~Danielle*Marie~:“ There is mercury in some shots still!! Just not as much as there used to be!”

I believe there's ones, and that's the measles. I think, I'm not sure exactly what shot. And there's such a small trace that you can get more from eating fish.

Quoting Riley[Waiting for Olivia]:“ I believe there's ones, and that's the measles. I think, I'm not sure exactly what shot. And there's such a small trace that you can get more from eating fish.”

yes, there is trace amounts. Not much at all, but there is trace amounts in thetetanus and diptheriashot, and also in the flu shot but some forms of these shots, which is still given, contains more than 25 micrograms!!! But most only have .3 micrograms.

There is also aluminum in a lot of shots these days. Which is also a very contraversial ingredient.

Quoting Riley[Waiting for Olivia]:“ I believe there's ones, and that's the measles. I think, I'm not sure exactly what shot. And there's such a small trace that you can get more from eating fish.”

No, measles or MMR has never had any mercury. And the concern parents have with even "trace" amounts of mercury is that the heavy metal is cumulative in the brain, and each child may have his or her own individual tolerance level. The symptoms of heavy metal toxicity are identical to those of autism.

Also, when they decreased the levels of mercury in most shots, they increased the levels of aluminum which is another known neuro-toxin.

And many versions of the flu shot still have a ton of mercury in them.

Quoting EmmaGrace:“ No, measles or MMR has never had any mercury. And the concern parents have with even "trace" amounts ... [snip!] ... levels of aluminum which is another known neuro-toxin. And many versions of the flu shot still have a ton of mercury in it.”

Like I said, I wasn't sure which one exactly.
But then don't feed your children certain fish,cause it has mercury.

It's all a bounce back and forth really. Because parents are so against vaccines and what they can do to your child and blah blah blah, but yet they will feed their children certain foods and let their children play outside in dirt, that can cause teh same problems.

Quoting Riley[Waiting for Olivia]:“ I was watching either on the news or on the Doctors, about how vaccines RARELY harm any child, allergic ... [snip!] ... I know your post didn't say anything about this, and yours was very informational. But I know how some moms feel, haha.”

These reaction are not as " rare" as you may think, for example. I fever can be a side effect, is that rare? And if the fever goes high enough the child may have seizures, sadly also not as rare as people think. And the whole debate on vaccines not causing autism? Well it depends on the scientist, or doctors you ask, many so no BUT just as many say yes, and the number of yes is increasing.
By the way, HI Kellie!!! I miss reading your posts
 

Quoting EmmaGrace:“ Thanks...that's what I want to explore with other parents...exactly how "rare" are these serious reactions? ... [snip!] ... all to do with the shots, even though these are documented risks and included in the packet inserts as possible side effects.”

which vaccine did your daughter have a reaction to? when i was a baby i had a reaction to pertussis. i was having seizures and had to be rushed to the er. when my parents got me there the doctors just treated them like they were paranoid new parents. it's one of the main reasons i do not vaccinate my daughter.

Quoting Riley[Waiting for Olivia]:“ Like I said, I wasn't sure which one exactly. But then don't feed your children certain fish,cause ... [snip!] ... yet they will feed their children certain foods and let their children play outside in dirt, that can cause teh same problems.”

The mercury in fish is different. http://www.myomancy.com/2005/05/ethyl_mercury_v

And I do limit the amount of fish my children eat.

Quoting **Cheri**:“ which vaccine did your daughter have a reaction to? when i was a baby i had a reaction to pertussis. ... [snip!] ... the doctors just treated them like they were paranoid new parents. it's one of the main reasons i do not vaccinate my daughter.”

I suspect the P of DPT. Did your mother then continue to vaccinate you with only the DT portion of the shot?