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The repeal of Roe V. Wade-a possibility?

posted 26th Aug
Unfortunately yes, it is.

I see a lot of people saying that it woudl never happen, but the truth is that the next presidentwill likely be replacing 2 or 3 Supreme Court Justices.

Ruth Bader Ginsberg is 75 and a women's rights champion. She has not been coy in her desire to retire, and more than likely will do so in the next 4 years.

John Paul Stevens is 88 and has also expressed a desire to retire. Heck, he will be 92 in 4 years, chances are he will be replaced.

Then there are Breyer, Souter and Kennedy, all whom are in their 70s.

If even 2 of the pro-roe v. wade judges retire and are replaced by McCain nominated judges, there is a very very good chance the court would lean in favor of overturning it. Alito and Roberts are boththought to vote for overturning it, and there are a couple of unknowns. All it woudl take is 5 out of 9 justices.

Then all that has to happen is for the supreme court to agree to hear a case on abortion. They at that point can decide to overturn the decision of Roe V. Wade. Abortion cases are brought to the supreme court ALL.THE.TIME. They dont actually hear many, but all it woudl take is one.

From Johh McCains website:

Overturning Roe v. Wade

John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that courts should not be in the business of legislating from the bench.

Constitutional balance would be restored by the reversal of Roe v. Wade, returning the abortion question to the individual states. The difficult issue of abortion should not be decided by judicial fiat.

However, the reversal of Roe v. Wade represents only one step in the long path toward ending abortion. Once the question is returned to the states, the fight for life will be one of courage and compassion - the courage of a pregnant mother to bring her child into the world and the compassion of civil society to meet her needs and those of her newborn baby. The pro-life movement has done tremendous work in building and reinforcing the infrastructure of civil society by strengthening faith-based, community, and neighborhood organizations that provide critical services to pregnant mothers in need. This work must continue and government must find new ways to empower and strengthen these armies of compassion. These important groups can help build the consensus necessary to end abortion at the state level. As John McCain has publicly noted, "At its core, abortion is a human tragedy. To effect meaningful change, we must engage the debate at a human level."


This is what would happen if it was overturned:

1. Within the first 60 days, trigger bans take effect. Numerous states have abortion bans already on the books that could take effect automatically within 45 to 60 days, based only on the attorney general's finding that Roe v. Wade has been overturned. All of these states would immediately close down any and all abortion clinics.

2. Within the first two years, abortion is illegal in more than half of the country. Legislatures in socially conservative states that have not already banned abortion would do so. After banning abortion, these states would aim to write abortion bans into their constitutions by referendum in an effort by legislators to draw socially conservative voters to the polls. In socially conservative states, from South Carolina in the east to Kansas in the west, abortion would be easily banned. In socially progressive states, such as California and most of New England, it would remain legal. Closely divided states, such as North Carolina and Ohio, would be political battlegrounds as the question of whether or not to ban abortion would become the defining issue of the legislative year--every legislative year.

3. For generations to come, abortion remains a defining issue in American politics. In federal policy debate, progressive legislators would work every year to expand abortion rights while conservative legislators would work every year to restrict them. Progressive politicians would run for president vowing to appoint justices who would bring back Roe, while conservative politicians would run for president vowing to appoint justices who wouldn't.
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posted 26th Aug
My mom and step-dad are republicans who are pro-choice, and they honestly do believe that Roe vs. Wade won't ever be repealed.

It's sad and disturbing to me.
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I'm due December 30th (a boy) & live in Missouri
posted 26th Aug
The sad thing is then they're going to have an even bigger problem on their hands: The return of back alley abortions. We all know what can happen with that.
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I'm due June 27th, have 1 child & 4 angel babies & live in Santa Clarita, California
posted 26th Aug
I don't think it will ever be repealed either.

If it were, I'd expect to see some people starting private funds to send women across the border to Mexico or Canada to have abortions. I'd donate.
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I have 1 child & live in Sherman, Texas
posted 26th Aug
Quoting OG; danyle:“ The sad thing is then they're going to have an even bigger problem on their hands: The return of back alley abortions. We all know what can happen with that.”
   
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I have 2 kids & live in Albuquerque, New Mexico
posted 26th Aug
For me I am totally against abortion, I would be in the wrong if I did it. But I think that if a woman wants to she should be able to. Now the late term abortions where there is no one in danger is just wrong. If they wanted to end it then they should have before. Thats JMO
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I have 1 child & live in Texas
posted 26th Aug
I think a lot of people dont realize how much power is in the hands of the next president in regards to replacing judges, and many people dont realize how much power those judges have.

I have told Hillary supporters that dont want to vote that they need to SIMPLY for this fact. If they dont like Obama fine, but by not voting you are giving a solically conservative pro-life president the option to dictate your womens rights.
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posted 26th Aug
Quoting meridian:“ I don't think it will ever be repealed either. If it were, I'd expect to see some people starting private funds to send women across the border to Mexico or Canada to have abortions. I'd donate.”

I would donate as well.
For them to dictate what women should do with their bodies is wrong. While I would never get an abortion, I don't judge anyone who has had one. To each their own. I may not agree, but people have their reasons.
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I'm due June 27th, have 1 child & 4 angel babies & live in Santa Clarita, California
posted 26th Aug
You say unfortunately, I say fortunately.
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I have 1 child & 1 angel baby & live in Illinois
posted 26th Aug
Quoting Gina Frappuccina:“ You say unfortunately, I say fortunately.”


Thats fine then.

THis post is to educate people that it is a possibility with a McCain president. I hear too many people saying that it would never happen.
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posted 26th Aug
Quoting meridian:“ I don't think it will ever be repealed either. If it were, I'd expect to see some people starting private funds to send women across the border to Mexico or Canada to have abortions. I'd donate.”
I sure hope that isn't the America we would have to live in.
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I have 1 child & live in Pennsylvania
posted 26th Aug
Quoting Dev22:“ Thats fine then. THis post is to educate people that it is a possibility with a McCain president. I hear too many people saying that it would never happen.”

Oh my bad, I thought we were allowed to discuss the topic.
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I have 1 child & 1 angel baby & live in Illinois
posted 26th Aug
Quoting Hanna's Mommy:“ I sure hope that isn't the America we would have to live in.”

It might be.
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I'm due June 27th, have 1 child & 4 angel babies & live in Santa Clarita, California
posted 26th Aug
I just don't think it will happen. Even if they are all pro-life, they can't be stupid enough to think that overturning roe v wade would end abortion. They have to know the problems it would cause. All the have to do is look at Latin America and see what would happen. I just don't think any of these highly educated people are that stupid.
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I have 2 kids & live in Lake Oswego, Oregon
posted 26th Aug
Quoting Gina Frappuccina:“ Oh my bad, I thought we were allowed to discuss the topic.”

Ok, lets discuss. Why would it be fortunate?
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I have 2 kids & live in Lake Oswego, Oregon
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