re: Redefining abortion.

Quoting mama3:“ It took a while for me to decide to use the IUD, becasue my family is so against it, but the reason I ... [snip!] ... abortions from it why are there people getting pregnant on it? Also It took me four months to concieve after getting it out.”

I'm one of those nerds that reads the Rx pamplet that comes along with the medication. I too read that they are not sure if one thing or many things results from the IUD.
1. thinning the uterine lining out so that an egg can not implant
2. not allowing semen into the uterus/fallopion tubes
3. not allowing an egg to be released

If IUD is considered an abortion due to reason #1, then wouldn't BFing be the same? I mean, BFing releases hormones that thins your uterine lining out (hence why some women do not menstruate or get pregnant). There is actually a much higher risk for uterine perforation while using the IUD with nursing moms since our uterus is already thin from nursing hormones.

So far, the IUD has been nice to me. I have no cycle, no pregnancies, and for five years I don't have to worry about refilling an Rx. The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't help with acne and every time around what should be my cycle, I get a horrible outbreak. Errr.

Quoting Pr0nkBeth:“ I'm one of those nerds that reads the Rx pamplet that comes along with the medication. I too read ... [snip!] ... I don't like is that it doesn't help with acne and every time around what should be my cycle, I get a horrible outbreak. Errr.”

Thanks for this information actually, because I was considering Mirena but didn't know entirely. Now I'm 100% sure it's what I want.  

Quoting Pr0nkBeth:“ I'm one of those nerds that reads the Rx pamplet that comes along with the medication. I too read ... [snip!] ... I don't like is that it doesn't help with acne and every time around what should be my cycle, I get a horrible outbreak. Errr.”

I am the same way and I love the Mirena, I used to be against it until I researched it myself

Quoting Breanna(Demetri's Mommy):“ yes, and most insurance companies don't cover "abortion" do they how convenient someone needs to pull ... [snip!] ... their head out their overly large ass People will NEVER let this happen, and if Obama is our next president he'll rescind it.”

     

I am so unbelievably offended by this. It may not be making birth control illegal, but it sure as hell will make it unaffordable to many.

And if they can't afford the pill, they can't afford the baby most likely. And it's so unfair to do that to people.

UGH. JUST SO MAD.

Quoting Breanna(Demetri's Mommy):“ Eh, thought I should point out... They aren't illegalizing those forms of birth control, just making ... [snip!] ... you need parental consent for abortion, you would need it too for those types of birth control. It's still stupid though..”

I agree.
I was starting to get confused.. you can get an abortion still.
They're just making it harder for people to prevent the need for an abortion

Quoting MommyLC:“ It also paves the way for people like Bush to repeal Roe vs Wade. It's a way to circumvent the law, ... [snip!] ... birth control, treatment on the sole basis of personal morality and despite the law, then you are a private institution.”

yes. exactly.

Quoting land shark:“ Oh yeah. You can be denied Plan B (where time is of the essence) or birth control based on the Pharmacist's personal beliefs about both.”

Thats so incredibly wrong.

Quoting talyndmauv5&Ozzie2:“ Well, lucky for you and people who agree, this isn't going to make the plan B pill only for rapes. ... [snip!] ... it already are refusing to do it so there will still be a plethera af able doctors available to all woman seeking this help.”

The instances of birth control causes problems with a pregnancy or fertility issues are so slim its ridiculous to base any of this on those what ifs.

Its all fine and dandy to spout off cases where the birth control method caused more harm than good, but in all actuality... The percentage of people who this decision would be detrimental to is higher than those who have had bad experiences with birth control.

I totally get what you're saying... but i don't agree. This will most definitely do more harm than good

Quoting Pr0nkBeth:“ I'm one of those nerds that reads the Rx pamplet that comes along with the medication. I too read ... [snip!] ... I don't like is that it doesn't help with acne and every time around what should be my cycle, I get a horrible outbreak. Errr.”

    

Very well said.
Someone repeat this to Bush, please.

I also wanted to add that the IUD is not recommended for someone who has never had children, but I think for those who have at least two. So, it's not like we have teenagers walking around with IUD's. Many women with IUD's are in the same situation as most of us on here (married or commited relationships, with more than two kids).

Quoting Pr0nkBeth:“ I also wanted to add that the IUD is not recommended for someone who has never had children, but I think ... [snip!] ... women with IUD's are in the same situation as most of us on here (married or commited relationships, with more than two kids).”

Exactly. I have 2 kids and do not want any more until way down the road. If we even decide on more.

They also do not want people who are not in a commited relationship on the IUD. You need to have kids, be in a commited relationship, and healthy.

Quoting Pr0nkBeth:“ I also wanted to add that the IUD is not recommended for someone who has never had children, but I think ... [snip!] ... women with IUD's are in the same situation as most of us on here (married or commited relationships, with more than two kids).”

Do you necessarily have to have had a vaginal birth to get an IUD? What about women who have had children by c-section, and have not gone into labor?

Quoting Orions Mommy:“ Do you necessarily have to have had a vaginal birth to get an IUD? What about women who have had children by c-section, and have not gone into labor?”

Wow, I have never seen that asked before. I know alot about it, not sure on this one.

Quoting Pr0nkBeth:“ I also wanted to add that the IUD is not recommended for someone who has never had children, but I think ... [snip!] ... women with IUD's are in the same situation as most of us on here (married or commited relationships, with more than two kids).”

agreed!

Quoting jan the baby wrangler:“ thats the truth! i bet the american people would love it when he addressed the nation with "People of ... [snip!] ... (9/11 aside) that anyone would actually listen to what he was saying, i mean how do you walk away from a statement like that?”

hahahahahah......thats great!!

I am pro-life, but you know what....America NEEEEEEDS birth control! I know son many younger kids that are on it. So many of the babies...and I mean babies will be popping out babies....hurting them selves, and the child that they are giving birth to. I remember when I was in middle school people were having sex. Think about how young they are having sex nowa days! There are women that cant use condoms....bc they are allergic to condoms....what are they suppose to do?? Just have babies are not have sex at all? Im sorry no one is gonna stop having sex because they cant have birth control....and i know there not gonna use something they cant use! This bothers me that someone would even think about this!


argggggg