re: why you don't want to be a statistic in wikipedia
posted 21st Nov
Many of the posters on this site are women who became pregnant early in life, planned or unplanned. Most of them are defending teen mothers saying that the statistics are wrong and that most teen mothers do not fall into that category because they didn’t. I believe that teenagers can be great parents, without age being an issue. Many teens are able to grow up and be mature enough to handle a baby. Many also have the support they need. But there are still those that would rather go out with friends and party than take care of a baby. There are the people that just aren’t quite ready to grow up. I understand what the initial poster, Mara, was trying to get these young mothers to understand. I am a a pregnant teen and I am not married (I’m not even with the father anymore). I am still in school, working towards my associate’s degree in Diagnostic Medical Sonography. My pregnancy was unplanned and we did use protection, but that is not going to make me less of a mother. I will not jump on Mara’s case though because I know that the harsh reality is that too many young girls fall into the statistics, making society look down on teen parents. This is the harsh reality, until you we can get rid of these statistics all together (which will probably never happen) society will look down upon us and we have no control over that. Everyone still looks at the teen parents who aren’t ready to grow up and just categorize those who are mature enough in the same category as them. There is nothing you can say or do to make society realize that you are not that person who leaves your baby with other people most of the time to go hang out with friends. I understand that I am going to have my hands full with the responsibility of raising a child. I also understand that is a hard thing to do, even for women in their late 20’s and 30’s. I know that my life is no longer about me, but it is about caring for my son with the best of my abilities. I am one of the lucky ones, I may not have wealthy parents that are going to support me financially, but I do have the support and help of my parents and my baby’s father and his parents. This may not be what we meant to happen, but all we can do is make the best of the situation and raise this baby boy so that he knows that he is loved.
quoteposted 21st Nov
That's really sad. I'm going through some difficulty, but I realize that I want better for my baby. Because I know I am the one who is going to mold this little human. And I am beyond grateful that my boyfriend is here, now. And I have faith that he will be here for the years to come. I really want different for my next baby, like a stable home and insurance. Hell, a better job too. And I am working for all of that NOW. One thing pregnancy has taught me is that life changes abruptly and so do priorities. Like I was majoring in theater and nursing was going to be a minor kind of thing, but now I am going to switch them and continue through the nursing and go full throttle with that.
quoteposted 23rd Nov
First of all girls, read what she wrote she is just stating fact and telling teen moms not to fail! No need to jump down her throat. I was a teen mother, I got pregnant at 15 and my highschool sweetheart left me, so did my friends, and my family. But despite all the problems i was going through i graduated highschool my sophmore year. I am now almost 20 married to my best friend who is in the armyand currently in Iraq.My daughter considershim daddy and has been her daddy in every way! I did think about adopting delanie to a family who could give her everything i couldn't, because lets face it there isnt much most teen mothers can provide. I was in a teen mother group of about 40 girls. I am the only one who isnt currentlyon welfare or having my family take care of my child. The statistics are sad but most of the time are true, mind u this is coming from a teen mom herself and have seen what is going on first hand. It is possible to succed in life and not become a statistic but the first step is to not be in denile. If you are going to take the step to be a mother then dont half ass it! Stop going to parties, stop being a child, and no, u cant still be a teenager and be a mommy it doesnt work, iv seen people try. Grow up and take responsiblity and be the best mom as u can. Its possible but Only with determination! Quoting Mara:“ AUTHOR'S NOTE: Because of the many responses I've received from intelligent and concerned teenage mothers, ... [snip!] ... the world a better place. Please feel free to reply with all and any thoughts you have on this posting! All the best, Mara”
quoteposted 25th Nov
All this is very true, I'm seventeen and six and a half months pregnant.
I really do come from a family of seventeen year old mothers and fathers, we don't know why but it's that age.
My dad was seveteen when he had my older sister Faith.
He was eighteen when he had my older brother Matt.
My older sister Faith was seventeen when she had her first kid.
My older brother Matt had his first kid at the same age.
Now my older brother was in the same boat as me, we were both on the same page when it came to teenage pregnancy.
I'm against it, for those BABIES choosing to have BABIES.
It's pathetic.
I know one girl who had her first when she was FIFTEEN.
FIFTEEEN. She was only a teenager for two damn years before she had a kid. When she was pregnant she found it acceptable to still smoke let alone tobacco but POT. And I wouldn't be suprised if she drank as well.
Guess what, her baby boy just turned one and she's pregnant again.
She wear's the things a teenager should wear, not a mom.
I'd be embarassed if she were my mother with the things she wears. When I see herI get embarrassed for her [excuse my spelling if it's wrong].
I have first hand experience though with dumb teenagers getting pregnant.
My older sister is now 28, in jail from meth, and lost all THREE of her kids.
She will never have full custody of them again, and I personally think the reason she got so hard into drugs and sex and partying after she had kids was because she missed out on her teenage years.
My niece Kyla is autistic and we think it might possibly be because Faith was smoking and drinking and not eating correctly when she was pregnant with Kyla.
My nephew Blake was born at 30 weeks.
So no, unless you know exactly what the hell your doing, you should not have a kid that young.
You really shouldn't even be having sex.
Me and my fiance still don't understand how I got pregnant, but I did.
Taking the highest dosage of the pill and even pulling out just because we didn't enjoy the aftermath [>.<] didn't work.
So do not get mad at this lady for warning you guys and looking out for you guys.
All she's doing is trying to open up our eyes to what we need to expect, what's been know to happen, and help prevent bad choices.
I personally was a little ticked when I opened this up, but after I read through it and thought about it, I understand why she posted it.
And thank you.
quoteposted 25th Nov
Quoting Penny Lane's Momma:“ All this is very true, I'm seventeen and six and a half months pregnant. I really do come from a family ... [snip!] ... ticked when I opened this up, but after I read through it and thought about it, I understand why she posted it. And thank you.”
thank you for sharing ... and taking the time to understand why i posted it.
quoteposted 28th Nov
Quoting Mara:“ thank you for sharing ... and taking the time to understand why i posted it.”
Yeah I just think that it's ridiculous that girls could get so damn offended why this post.
I mean really what's the big deal?
If you feel like it doesn't apply to you than why bother making yourself look like an idiot?
Right? haha
quoteposted 29th Nov
I think you should consider yourself one of the lucky ones....to have it all under control and supportive friends and family...
quoteposted 29th Nov
Quoting SillyEatsPeas:“ I think you should consider yourself one of the lucky ones....to have it all under control and supportive friends and family...”
who's lucky?
quoteposted 1st Dec
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For one thing wikipedia is not the most reliable source to get information. Someone who would take this much time to type all that out should already be aware of that. I am not saying that some teen mothers can not raise their children or take GOOD care of them......But most do!I dont understand why anyone would take the time to try to make others seem less capable then themselves. Who's to say that you take better care of your childeren then us. I am 18 years old I work two jobs I am in school to get my cna. ( I graduated with a 4.0 gpa) I have my own appartment and my own car. I may not be married but what century are we in now?
I dont approve in young girls trying to get pregnant, but I support the women who realize their responcibilities as a mother. Not everyone asks for this, and they sure as hell don't ask to be some statistic so that others can decide wheither you meet the criteria.
quoteposted 1st Dec
Quoting ~miss*mary~is prego:“ "In the universe of Modern Language Association (MLA) guidelines and citations, the rules, of which there ... [snip!] ... asks for this, and they sure as hell don't ask to be some statistic so that others can decide wheither you meet the criteria.”
Shes completely right. We in the long run would have preferred NOT to be pregnant,but we still love our children, and we took responsibility, and we dont need others to decide whether or not we are fit to be mothers on our age alone. Get to know every teenager as a mother before you decide whether they are wrong or right. Conglomerating us with every single teen mom out there (bad and good) and only speaking of the bad is hardly a statistic anyways.
quoteposted 2nd Dec
well this is so true they put us down so much as teen mom i am 6 weeks and already have people puttin in their smart remaks but they dont understand what we go threw as young moms but at the end were the only one that has to deal with our babies them people not going to buy diapers or anything else for our babies so wht can they say and i put it like this if u dont have nothing good to say dont say it at all you kno what i mean
quoteposted 2nd Dec
I don't know if this was posted, and I have not read the whole thing, however if you're going to base your argument off of facts please use a credible site. Wikipedia is not a "factual" site. They are far from the facts. Anyone can change the information to be what they want it to be. I learned this sort of thing in my college classes. Any information you want that is factual should have a .org or a .gov site. Or be from a book with resources you can look up, and/or from a database.
Just thought I'd let you all know that Wikipedia is not completely reliable. Also statistics can be manipulated in any way you see fit. For example (this is completely fake) one person could say teens are 20% more likely to get pregnant where as someone else will say only 80% don't. Or vise versa.
quoteposted 2nd Dec
Quoting ~miss*mary~is prego:“ "In the universe of Modern Language Association (MLA) guidelines and citations, the rules, of which there ... [snip!] ... asks for this, and they sure as hell don't ask to be some statistic so that others can decide wheither you meet the criteria.”
Ok Yea I guess someone did post it, and posted it much better then I could have!
quoteposted 13th Dec
Well, I read the entire first page, and most of the last, skipped the middle as it seems to mostly repeat itself.
Wikipedia, although not the most reliable source of information as it can be edited by anyone, on this, it's pretty close. I've read these statistics or close to them on other sites that could be regarded as more reliable. In some sense, I agree entirely with what it says, however, on the other hand, these statistics can easily be placed on parents having kids in their 20's, 30's or older. Age is a number here.
I admit, I've made some mistakes in my time, perhaps in one sense or another come under those statistics, however, I'm taking each step forward to give myself, and my daughter, a better life than the underlying statistic made. IE teen parents don't give their children the stimulation and emotions they need, encouragement, etc etc etc (wrong wording I know, but I hope my point is put across).
As a final note, as I don't want to mega-para this, it is nice to see there are people who are supportive, perhaps with more support like that, there would be lower statistics. Perhaps, not a certainty, we can only hope though. And others are right, finding resources on being a teen parent and pregnant as a teen, hard to find, online or otherwise. It's a saying of "You either know where to look, or you go it alone". More notice should be around to give people, like myself and others, who are or have been pregnant teens, and afterwards too, both online and in our areas. More support that's easily available, and actually helpful (I know one or two people commented about how medical professionals and others treated them, gave them threats (social services) etc etc) so people who are actually there to support and not criticize.
quoteposted 16th Dec
I personally don't think this article is B.S. Not like these things apply to EVERY teen mother
1. B4 i got pregnant I didn't eat as healthy but i do even more so now ( in the past i didn't use to Pig out all the time or anything) but because i want to teach my baby good eating habbits I have to eat better from here on.
2. I know a lot of girls who had another baby b4 their next kid was fully outta diapers, which nothing is wrong wiht it as long as you are stable... by that i dont mean living off of mom and dad or the baby daddy buti dont think its a good thing to do before getting advanced in your career. I understand not planing or expecting to get pregnant like the 1st time but after that you know that things will be so much tighter and harder to take care of yourself, the baby and another little one.
3. Maybe it's just the teen mothers that i know but all of them play with their babies and everything they spend time with them but I know all mothers( mostly younger) dont do that and for the ones who don't they def should have fun and play with your baby.
4. I plan on being like my older sister she had her son at 20 or 21 but w/e her 13 year old son has NEVER gotten bad grades right now hes taking freshman Algebra/Geometry I plan on being on my kids ass because like all parents you want your child to do better than you did.
I think that Wikipedia gives not completely true statements on being a teen mother. I think it's great that the lady who posted it here was for a reason because it show's teen mothers this is what ppl/ the government and schools expect from you so fix it. I refuse to be looked at as a statistical teen mother!
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