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Homosexual activity among animals

posted 25th Jul
Homosexuality is brought up often as a debate here. I hear people say that it is wrong because it is not natural; that homosexuality is a choice and people who engage in this life style are making a bad choice. So, I just thought I'd throw this out there. We all know that animals don't make such complex decisions, and that everything they do usually is for some gain or survival. How does being gay fit into the animal kingdom? What does it mean for gays of the human variety?

Homosexual Activity Among Animals Stirs Debate
James Owen in London
for National Geographic News

July 23, 2004

Birds do it, bees do it, even educated fleas do it. So go the
lyrics penned by U.S. songwriter Cole Porter.

Porter, who first hit it big in the 1920s, wouldn't risk parading his homosexuality in public. In his day "the birds and the bees" generally meant only one thing—sex between a male and female.

But, actually, some same-sex birds do do it. So do beetles, sheep, fruit bats, dolphins, and orangutans. Zoologists are discovering that homosexual and bisexual activity is not unknown within the animal kingdom.



Roy and Silo, two male chinstrap penguins at New York's Central Park Zoo have been inseparable for six years now. They display classic pair-bonding behavior—entwining of necks, mutual preening, flipper flapping, and the rest. They also have sex, while ignoring potential female mates.

Wild birds exhibit similar behavior. There are male ostriches that only court their own gender, and pairs of male flamingos that mate, build nests, and even raise foster chicks.

Filmmakers recently went in search of homosexual wild animals as part of a National Geographic Ultimate Explorer documentary about the female's role in the mating game. (The film, Girl Power, will be screened in the U.S this Saturday at 8 p.m. ET, 5 p.m PT on MSNBC TV.)

The team caught female Japanese macaques engaged in intimate acts which, if observed in humans, would be in the X-rated category.

"The homosexual behavior that goes on is completely baffling and intriguing," says National Geographic Ultimate Explorer correspondent, Mireya Mayor. "You would have thought females that want to be mated, especially over their fertile period, would be seeking out males."

Well, perhaps, in a roundabout way, they are seeking males, suggests primatologist Amy Parish.

She argues that female macaques may enhance their social position through homosexual intimacy which in turn influences breeding success. Parish says, "Taking something that's nonreproductive, like mounting another female—if it leads to control of a resource or acquisition of a resource or a good alliance partner, that could directly impact your reproductive success."

Sexual Gratification

On the other hand, they could just be enjoying themselves, suggests Paul Vasey, animal behavior professor at the University of Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada. "They're engaging in the behavior because it's gratifying sexually or it's sexually pleasurable," he says. "They just like it. It doesn't have any sort of adaptive payoff."

Matthew Grober, biology professor at Georgia State University, agrees, saying, "If [sex] wasn't fun, we wouldn't have any kids around. So I think that maybe Japanese macaques have taken the fun aspect of sex and really run with it."

The bonobo, an African ape closely related to humans, has an even bigger sexual appetite. Studies suggest 75 percent of bonobo sex is nonreproductive and that nearly all bonobos are bisexual. Frans de Waal, author of Bonobo: The Forgotten Ape, calls the species a "make love, not war" primate. He believes bonobos use sex to resolve conflicts between individuals.

Other animals appear to go through a homosexual phase before they become fully mature. For instance, male dolphin calves often form temporary sexual partnerships, which scientists believe help to establish lifelong bonds. Such sexual behavior has been documented only relatively recently. Zoologists have been accused of skirting round the subject for fear of stepping into a political minefield.

"There was a lot of hiding of what was going on, I think, because people were maybe afraid that they would get into trouble by talking about it," notes de Waal. Whether it's a good idea or not, it's hard not make comparisons between humans and other animals, especially primates. The fact that homosexuality does, after all, exist in the natural world is bound to be used against people who insist such behavior is unnatural.

In the U.S., in particular, the moral debate over this issue rages on. Many on the religious right regard homosexuality as a sin. And only this month, President Bush vowed to continue his bid to ban gay marriages after the Senate blocked the proposal.

Already, cases of animal homosexuality have been cited in successful court cases brought against states like Texas, where gay sex was, until recently, illegal.

Yet scientists say we should be wary of referring to animals when considering what's acceptable in human society. For instance, infanticide, as practiced by lions and many other animals, isn't something people, gay or straight, generally approve of in humans.

Human Homosexuality

So how far can we go in using animals to help us understand human homosexuality? Robin Dunbar is a professor of evolutionary psychology at the University of Liverpool, England. "The bottom line is that anything that happens in other primates, and particularly other apes, is likely to have strong evolutionary continuity with what happens in humans," he said.

Dunbar says the bonobo's use of homosexual activity for social bonding is a possible example, adding, "One of the main arguments for human homosexual behavior is that it helps bond male groups together, particularly where a group of individuals are dependent on each other, as they might be in hunting or warfare."

For instance, the Spartans, in ancient Greece, encouraged homosexuality among their elite troops. "They had the not unreasonable belief that individuals would stick by and make all efforts to rescue other individuals if they had a lover relationship," Dunbar added.

Another suggestion is that homosexuality is a developmental phase people go through. He said, "This is similar to the argument of play in young animals to get their brain and muscles to work effectively and together. Off the back of this, there's the possibility you can get individuals locked into this phase for the rest of their lives as a result of the social environment they grow up in."

But he adds that homosexuality doesn't necessarily have to have a function. It could be a spin-off or by-product of something else and in itself carries no evolutionary weight."

He cites sexual gratification, which encourages procreation, as an example. "An organism is designed to maximize its motivational systems," he adds.

In other words, if the urge to have sex is strong enough it may spill over into nonreproductive sex, as suggested by the actions of the bonobos and macaques. However, as Dunbar admits, there's a long way to go before the causes of homosexuality in humans are fully understood.

He said, "Nobody's really investigated this issue thoroughly, because it's so politically sensitive. It's fair to say all possibilities are still open."
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I have 2 kids & live in Lake Oswego, Oregon
posted 25th Jul
i don't believe that we know for sure that animals aren't capable of making those choices.. i do believe that homosexuality is wrong. but i do not judge and will not not be friends with someone because they chose that lifestyle.. my brother is gay
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I have 1 child & live in Montana
posted 25th Jul
Neat article.
So what the female macaques do, would that be the same as two drunken sorority girls making out at the bar in order to turn the boys on?  
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I have 1 child & live in Eagle River, Alaska
posted 25th Jul
I have two boy dogs and before we had Apolla we had Rufus. (Bruno has been here since he was born).

They would be playing and knock eachother down (I'm talking about Bruno and Rufus... or Brufus-their gay name) and start 69ing. lol. it was sooo gross!!! I'm sure they didn't think anything sexually of it because neither one of their pink things would show (TMI). haha. but you know how little boys will just keep their hand in their pants when they learn what their pee pee is for? I think it's kind of like that.

But I'm no Dog Whisperer.
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posted 21st Aug
I think being homosexual, bisexual or heterosexual are all totally normal. Some people/animals/insects etc. are, and some aren't. Simple as that.
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I have 1 child & live in Oldsmar, Florida
posted 21st Aug
Some animals eat their young. Does that mean we should do it too? I mean, if it's only natural.
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I have 1 child & live in Oregon
posted 21st Aug
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:“ Some animals eat their young. Does that mean we should do it too? I mean, if it's only natural.”

I'm not sure how the 2 correlate? The point is, animals don't choose to be gay, it comes natural to them, as I'm sure it must come natural to eat their young in some cases. As humans, fighting the urge to eat our young might be a bit easier then fighting being gay!
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I have 2 kids & live in Lake Oswego, Oregon
posted 21st Aug
Quoting J e s s i c a:“ I'm not sure how the 2 correlate? The point is, animals don't choose to be gay, it comes natural to ... [snip!] ... to eat their young in some cases. As humans, fighting the urge to eat our young might be a bit easier then fighting being gay!”

My point is that just because something is 'natural' doesn't necessarily mean that we consider it to be ok.
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I have 1 child & live in Oregon
posted 22nd Aug
I dont see why people get in such a huff over homosexuality. Not all sex is for reproductive reasons and some people are attracted to different things, and sometimes people are attracted to their own gender. It doesnt hurt anyone, so really, why someone would be mad about it is beyond me.
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I'm due March 14th, have 2 kids & live in Millersville, Maryland
posted 22nd Aug
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:“ My point is that just because something is 'natural' doesn't necessarily mean that we consider it to be ok.”

I can see why eating your young would not be ok, why would loving a person of the same gender not be ok?
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I have 2 kids & live in Lake Oswego, Oregon
posted 22nd Aug
Quoting J e s s i c a:“ I can see why eating your young would not be ok, why would loving a person of the same gender not be ok?”

Your changing the argument. What was the point of posting that animals exhibit homosexual activity?
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I have 1 child & live in Oregon
posted 22nd Aug
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:“ Your changing the argument. What was the point of posting that animals exhibit homosexual activity?”

Isn't that how debates work? I just asked a question.
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I have 2 kids & live in Lake Oswego, Oregon
posted 22nd Aug
Quoting J e s s i c a:“ Isn't that how debates work? I just asked a question.”

You are avoiding my assertion that just because something is natural doesn't mean we always consider it 'ok'.
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I have 1 child & live in Oregon
posted 22nd Aug
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:“ You are avoiding my assertion that just because something is natural doesn't mean we always consider it 'ok'.”


I dont think that was the point though, I thnk that the point to take away from this is that its not a "choice" and that humans are born that way. At least that is what I take away from it.
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posted 22nd Aug
Quoting Dev22:“ I dont think that was the point though, I thnk that the point to take away from this is that its not a "choice" and that humans are born that way. At least that is what I take away from it.”

I'm not saying that's not true. We have other natural instincts that aren't considered ok also. What about the man who is naturally attracted to children? Since he's born that way, is it ok?
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I have 1 child & live in Oregon
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