re: to all you home-birthing mamas....

Quoting Tattooed~Mommy:“ I don't really understand what the kitty farting thing is all about, but i just wanted to let other ... [snip!] ... better than cafemom, but the forums that are aimed to support natural birth ideas rather than debate them is quite refreshing.”

I know that there are plenty of Mothers on here that have done natural birthing, I think that you should make a thread either in L&B or FFA, You will be rather suprised at the amount of real support you will find.

Quoting Lianna:“ I know that there are plenty of Mothers on here that have done natural birthing, I think that you should ... [snip!] ... you should make a thread either in L&B or FFA, You will be rather suprised at the amount of real support you will find.”

You may be right, but I would prefer not to dispute the subject of home birth, and that seems to happen here on BG, regardless of where the post is located. Since I have made the decision for a home birth, I would rather get support from other home birth mothers rather than read about how "crazy" my decision is.

Quoting Tattooed~Mommy:“ just wanted to let you know that Cafemom.com has discussion forums available specific to home births, ... [snip!] ... said, i have also met a few AWESOME and supportive women here who have helped me, and i hope to see you on cafemom as well!!”

And by the way, I AM NOT URGING ANYONE TO LEAVE BG. Just be aware that there are more supportive forums out there. Cafemom is one of them, probably not the best, but a good start for me at least.

Quoting Tattooed~Mommy:“ You may be right, but I would prefer not to dispute the subject of home birth, and that seems to happen ... [snip!] ... for a home birth, I would rather get support from other home birth mothers rather than read about how "crazy" my decision is.”

as far as ive seen on BG the only time people dissagree with a homebirth/pain free situation is when it is unassited by anysort of midwife/dr etc purely on the safety aspect of it all.

Quoting Tattooed~Mommy:“ I don't really understand what the kitty farting thing is all about, but i just wanted to let other ... [snip!] ... better than cafemom, but the forums that are aimed to support natural birth ideas rather than debate them is quite refreshing.”

Hats off to you for wanting to go natural...but not everyone is going to agree...that's life. I couldnt do it at home, but those few of you that can are my heroes

Quoting x x madii x x:“ as far as ive seen on BG the only time people dissagree with a homebirth/pain free situation is when it is unassited by anysort of midwife/dr etc purely on the safety aspect of it all.”

well, that's precisely my point. there are a lot of people, such as myself who believe that most medical intervention during birth is UNSAFE as well as unnecessary. i believe that a woman has the ability to birth safely WITHOUT a dr/midwife, and the majority of women here on BG feel the exact opposite. i don't care to CONVINCE anyone that i'm right-- i just want support, and there is ALOT of support out there, just not here on BG.

Quoting Tattooed~Mommy:“ well, that's precisely my point. there are a lot of people, such as myself who believe that most medical ... [snip!] ... care to CONVINCE anyone that i'm right-- i just want support, and there is ALOT of support out there, just not here on BG.”

i'll admit i don't think i'd be willing to give birth w/out a professional midwife around... and i'm all for "owning" your labor process.

anyway, i'm glad you've found support... but i'm not sure how intelligent it is to try to go through giving birth w/out an experienced midwife/doula around.

as much as i agree that pregnancy and labour should not be pathologized, at the same time i respect what a volitile bodily process giving birth is-- and how easily that passage can become dangerous to the mother and/or the fetus.

i don't know if you're willing to discuss it in more depth, but i'm curious about what's directing your decision to give birth w/out any assistance whatsoever.

i talked to my midwife and told her i didn't want any coaching. the majority of my labor she wasn't even in the same room as me, b/c i told her i need to deal w/ it on my own.

but she was there to check the heart beat, my dilation, give me an enema (heh), and sort of mentally put me in the right place b/c i wans't prepared to give birth at the end of 36 weeks.

my mother had four unassissted (save the presence of a friend she directed) home births after giving birth twice.

maybe b/c she'd been through it two times she felt prepared to handle it on her own-- perhaps that's what you're feeling?

Quoting Mara:“ i'll admit i don't think i'd be willing to give birth w/out a professional midwife around... and i'm ... [snip!] ... maybe b/c she'd been through it two times she felt prepared to handle it on her own-- perhaps that's what you're feeling?”

Actually, I have decided to stay with my home birth plan of having my midwife present simply because I've never done this before and I feel I don't know enough about my physiological self to be completely comfortable alone, no matter how much research I do-- I simply lack the experience. However, I am lucky enough to have the option of a great midwife and I hope to learn as much as possible from her. (BUT if *something* were to happen and I find myself alone giving birth with no alternative but to be alone, I also have no doubt in my mind that I can experience it with no complications.)
I don't believe that a trained medical professional present is absolutely necessary, though, because I believe (if we are open and willing) that our basic instincts will take over and we can give birth just as drug-free and naturally as a cat does.
It just helps me (personally) to be able to write and ask questions in a private forum specifically made for people who believe in home/water/natural/unassisted birth and will support my decisions. I've just found it difficult here where the forums are open to anyone and I am called "ignorant" because I posted something on Hypnobirthing. As a soon to be mother who is trying to have faith in my own body rather than medical science, I feel generally unsupported on this site in regards to that.  

Quoting Tait's Mommy:“ Hats off to you for wanting to go natural...but not everyone is going to agree...that's life. I couldnt do it at home, but those few of you that can are my heroes”

...which is why I'm letting women who think like me know that there are some forums out there where all the women DO agree.

I think what the original poster was trying to say is that she wants to be a part of a community that specifically supports natural and homebirths and where the large majority of mamas on that website are choosing to do so. Sort of like I wouldnt go onto a general, lets say football website and start talking about how great the Eagles are (I live in PA, totally not a sports fan but using this analogy  ) and knowing that not everyone will feel that way, that yes we will all like football (being that we are members of the website) and that is why we joined, but, not everyone will agree with me liking and supporting the Eagles. So, she wants to go to a place whereeveryone enjoys the Eagles, or, atleast supports themand thinks they are great even if that is for whatever reason is not their team of choice. Atleast I think that is what she is trying to say.

this post saddens me. I have seen some women post pretty negatively about homebirths... but not because they are coming down on me for chosing to have a homebirth.. but because they are so scared to do it themselves.

I have been commended over and over again for having a homebirth.. when in fact it is I who should be commending those who chose to do it in a hospital. Hopital births are scarier (to me) then a homebirth could ever be.

OP, good luck to you and I hope you find the support that you seek.

Quoting Sadie 700:“ this post saddens me. I have seen some women post pretty negatively about homebirths... but not because ... [snip!] ... are scarier (to me) then a homebirth could ever be. OP, good luck to you and I hope you find the support that you seek.”

i know what you mean, but i don't know about commending them for going to the hospital-- i mean, it's not like they're being more brave, they're just assuming that the hospital is the safest option b/c they don't know the reality of the situation, b/c they've been indoctrinated to fear their bodies, labor, and the process of birth in general.

the reality is: many normal healthy pregnancies end up in botched labors, emergency c-sections, episotomies, and so on, only because they're in the hospital.

and even those women that do know the facts and still choose to do it in the hospital, i don't know if that's really especially commendable either.

personally, i admire the women who take their labor and their values in hand-- and choose to do the research until they reach an educated and harmonious decision about what will be best for them, their laboring body, and their babies in terms of how they want their birthing experience to happen.

I think the issue that most of us took with the OP was her condescending attitude towards all of those who had birth in the hospital. I had an emergency c-section at 30 weeks. Medical invervention was not only necessary but life saving (in my case). I would LOVE to have had a natural birth and even joked that I would never go to the hospital, just have him at home. However since I would be trying to attempt a VBAC I also feel like the hospital will be the best place for me for further births.  

Quoting Pirate Tink *G*I*G*:“ I think the issue that most of us took with the OP was her condescending attitude towards all of those ... [snip!] ... since I would be trying to attempt a VBAC I also feel like the hospital will be the best place for me for further births.  ”

It would be appreciated if you could quote me on my "condescending attitude" toward hospital-goers. I believe it is entirely up to the mother to decide what SHE believes is the safest place to give birth. I don't believe I have expressed any sort of negativity toward women who have chosen that-- I have only expressed my opinions and the reasons why I have chosen a home birth.

It seems to me that you are going quite out of your way to put me down on every topic I post. Are you sure it is not YOU who is condescending?? Stay away from my posts if you don't like me.

Quoting Tattooed~Mommy:“ It would be appreciated if you could quote me on my "condescending attitude" toward hospital-goers. ... [snip!] ... me down on every topic I post. Are you sure it is not YOU who is condescending?? Stay away from my posts if you don't like me.”

I actually stumbled upon the first one and ended up here at the direction of someone else. You were VERY condescending to Rubygirl in your vaccinations thread. I suppose I could go dig it out and grab it. I think you make a lot of assumptions about child birth that are none of your business. Worry about popping your OWN child out and the rest of us will worry about ours. Otherwise you come off preachy. Mara and Sadie both had home births and I admire them greatly for doing so. You however are a pompous ass.