re: Abortion (a semantic discussion)

Quoting God:“ As opposed to the meticulously planned and scheduled debates that go on around here? heh C.”

lol. Facts are facts. Maybe they should try to get the medical term change if it is so offending??? They know they didn't purposly abort their babies, I don't see why it would matter what it was called.

Quoting God:“ And if you want to debate the ethics of abortion, go elsewhere. Attempts to debate it here will just get you ignored and/or ridiculed. Thank you. C.”

Thank you so much!

What about this? This perhaps should be in a thread on it's own, so if anyone else feels the same, they can go ahead and transfer it.

http://www.indymoms.com/posts/birth-control-to-be-defined-as-abortion-under-pres-bush

“Abortion: An abortion is the termination of a pregnancy. There are two commonly held views on the question of when a pregnancy begins. Some consider a pregnancy to begin at conception (that is, the fertilization of the egg by the sperm), while others consider it to begin with implantation (when the embryo implants in the lining of the uterus). A 2001 Zogby International American Values poll revealed that 49% of Americans believe that human life begins at conception. Presumably many who hold this belief think that any action that destroys human life after conception is the termination of a pregnancy, and so would be included in their definition of the term “abortion.” Those who believe pregnancy begins at implantation believe the term “abortion” only includes the destruction of a human being after it has implanted in the lining of the uterus.”
The proposal continues:
“Both definitions of pregnancy inform medical practice. Some medical authorities, like the American Medical Association and the British Medical Association, have defined the term “established pregnancy” as occurring after implantation. Other medical authorities present different definitions. Stedman’s Medical Dictionary, for example, defines pregnancy as “[t]he state of a female after conception and until the termination of the gestation.” Dorland’s Medical Dictionary defines pregnancy, in relevant part, as “the condition of having a developing embryo or fetus in the body, after union of an oocyte and spermatozoon.”
Up until now, the federal government followed the definition of pregnancy accepted by the American Medical Association and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, which is: pregnancy begins at implantation.
With this proposal, however, HHS is expanding on the definition of medical experts and now claims that pregnancy begins at some biologically unknowable moment (there’s no test to determine if a woman’s egg has been fertilized). Under these new standards there would be no way for a woman to prove she’s not pregnant. Thus, any woman could be denied contraception under HHS’ new science.

this is of course obvious like most of your observations are.

while i was in nursing school we discussed the term of abortion. Most medical providers use the term miscarriage instead of abortion to be less offensive. As with most words their definitions change over time. See noam chomsky for more info.