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posted 13th Jul
All right.

They say alcoholism is a disease.

I call bullshit.

A disease doesn't teach you to pick up a bottle and start drinking.

I say it's enviromental.
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Kentucky
posted 13th Jul
I agree it is a disease, Its the disease of addiction.
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I have 1 child & live in Ballan, Australia
posted 13th Jul
Quoting Lianna:“ I agree it is a disease, Its the disease of addiction.”

So, a disease just programs you to know that at a certain age you should pick up a bottle and start drinking, or hit up a drug dealer for your crack?
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Kentucky
posted 13th Jul
Obviously you've never lived with an alcoholic.   That's just ignorance saying "bullshit, disease doesn't teach you to pick up a bottle and start drinking."
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I'm due February 19th (a boy), have 1 child & live in Japan
posted 13th Jul
Quoting Itarian Starrion:“ Obviously you've never lived with an alcoholic.   That's just ignorance saying "bullshit, disease doesn't teach you to pick up a bottle and start drinking."”

I'm saying, if its a genetic passed on disease then how come little kids aren't already drinking?
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Kentucky
posted 13th Jul
Quoting --Aly--:“ I'm saying, if its a genetic passed on disease then how come little kids aren't already drinking?”

Ahhh but not all diseases are genetic.
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I'm due May 30th, have 2 angel babies & live in Watsontown, Pennsylvania
posted 13th Jul
Quoting --Aly--:“ So, a disease just programs you to know that at a certain age you should pick up a bottle and start drinking, or hit up a drug dealer for your crack?”


No, Like many people they start with one, one day then move on and need more and more, Its an addiction.

I have a drug addict as a sister and her daughters father is a alcoholic, they are both currently clean, But they are called addicts because of the addiction they had.
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I have 1 child & live in Ballan, Australia
posted 13th Jul
Quoting ~Terra~ CowgirlUP:“ Ahhh but not all diseases are genetic.”

It's just something I heard.

Well, my friend tried to tell me she was an alcoholic because her parents passed on the gene.

I told her it was bullshit, she didn't have to start drinking.
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Kentucky
posted 13th Jul
Quoting --Aly--:“ I'm saying, if its a genetic passed on disease then how come little kids aren't already drinking?”


My father was a alcoholic.

My sister is a addict.

I went through a stage where my doctor was going to class me as an alcoholic.
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I have 1 child & live in Ballan, Australia
posted 13th Jul
Quoting Lianna:“ No, Like many people they start with one, one day then move on and need more and more, Its an addiction. ... [snip!] ... daughters father is a alcoholic, they are both currently clean, But they are called addicts because of the addiction they had.”


So what i'm saying is.

Is her daughter going to be an addict too?

I mean, is it programmed into her DNA now to start doing drugs?

If so, then shouldn't she be wanting it right now?

I'm not saying an addiction is not a real thing, what I guess I should of posted is that I do not believe it's a genetic thing.
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Kentucky
posted 13th Jul
Quoting --Aly--:“ It's just something I heard. Well, my friend tried to tell me she was an alcoholic because her parents passed on the gene. I told her it was bullshit, she didn't have to start drinking.”


That is bullshit. My father is a recovering alcoholic. Sober for 4 years now and still goes to meetings everyday, sometimes twice a day.

While I think that it is some form ofa disease (of addiction). It is NOT a medical disease, I think its more of a mental issue. You have to be able to find the will power and the strength to overcome that addiction.
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I'm due May 30th, have 2 angel babies & live in Watsontown, Pennsylvania
posted 13th Jul
addiction is a disease a bad one...

I you had ever personally had to deal with one yourself or with a friend./family you would understand that.
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I have 1 child & live in Minnesota
posted 13th Jul
Quoting Itarian Starrion:“ Obviously you've never lived with an alcoholic.   That's just ignorance saying "bullshit, disease doesn't teach you to pick up a bottle and start drinking."”

My thoughts exactly. PURE IGNORANCE!
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I have 1 child & live in Savannah, Georgia
posted 13th Jul
Quoting ~Terra~ CowgirlUP:“ That is bullshit. My father is a recovering alcoholic. Sober for 4 years now and still goes to meetings ... [snip!] ... I think its more of a mental issue. You have to be able to find the will power and the strength to overcome that addiction.”

See, that's what i'm saying.

Your gene did not tell you to pick up a bottle and start drinking.

It's an excuse.
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Kentucky
posted 13th Jul
Quoting --Aly--:“ So what i'm saying is. Is her daughter going to be an addict too? I mean, is it programmed into her ... [snip!] ... I'm not saying an addiction is not a real thing, what I guess I should of posted is that I do not believe it's a genetic thing.”


Hopefully she isn't.

But the gene is there it could possbible happen if she tries something and needs it more and more, not necesarily drugs or alcohol there is also gambling and collecting stuff as well.
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I have 1 child & live in Ballan, Australia
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