re: Debate anyone? =) And or Discuss?

Quoting J&LsMommy:“ No she's not programmed to do it. The initial choice to drink is her's but the resulting addiction ... [snip!] ... I do drink I am very careful not to drink often and limit how much I drink because it could very easily become a habit for me.”

It is just an excuse.
I know.
I'm pretty mad about it.
I wish she would wake up.

Quoting --Aly--:“ THATS what im Saying! Its Enviromental!”

Well... Yes and no. In my husband's case, DEFINITELY yes. His mother was an alcoholic and so is her whole family and same with his dad's side. In my case, no. I'm not an alcoholic but my mom worried about it because of the pre-disposition from my dad's family. That's one thing I swear to you I worry about every day... That my son is going to be an alcoholic. It's hard.

So what I want to know, is if she is raised with a clean family, then she might not have the urge.
I was raised in a clean family and I have NO urges whatsoever. That doesn't mean that's the way it always happens though.

But do you think because of the gene its programmed into her to do it?
Nope, it's all up to her. An alcoholic will do whatever the hell they want to do. They don't care who it hurts or what it takes to get there. If she really wanted to be an alcoholic, she'd be drinking right now.

Quoting --Aly--:“ It is just an excuse. I know. I'm pretty mad about it. I wish she would wake up.”

Obviously she wants/needs a reason to drink which means she is probably well on her way to an addiction.

Well I definitley believe that addiction can definitely be passed from one generation to another. My father was an addict and alcoholic. I didn't grow up around him, but still tend to have an addictive personality. It doesn't neccessarily have to be drugs or alcohol either. But if you have parents with addictive personalities it is definitley a possibility that the offspring could have the same addictive problems

Quoting J&LsMommy:“ Obviously she wants/needs a reason to drink which means she is probably well on her way to an addiction.”

I know she is, and for the past what feels like forever years, I spend time with her every day, hoping she'll stop.

It's been 5 years now. =(

Quoting J&LsMommy:“ Obviously she wants/needs a reason to drink which means she is probably well on her way to an addiction.”

DING DING! That's one thing I learned from my husband when he came back from rehab. He said an alcoholic will drink when he's happy and when he wants to celebrate and he'll drink when he's upset, because they're all a "reason" to drink. Drink to happiness, drink to sadness. It clicked to me, when my husband went to the board he wanted to drink and celebrate. When he had a bad day, he wanted to drink and shut out the whole world.

Quoting Itarian Starrion:“ DING DING! That's one thing I learned from my husband when he came back from rehab. He said an alcoholic ... [snip!] ... went to the board he wanted to drink and celebrate. When he had a bad day, he wanted to drink and shut out the whole world.”

Good point.

Quoting pixie_posy:“ Well I definitley believe that addiction can definitely be passed from one generation to another. My ... [snip!] ... parents with addictive personalities it is definitley a possibility that the offspring could have the same addictive problems”

Did you know about him always being an addict?

Quoting --Aly--:“ I know she is, and for the past what feels like forever years, I spend time with her every day, hoping she'll stop. It's been 5 years now. =(”

My dad just overcame his alcohol addiction after about 20 years. I'm not sure it was soon enough to save his life though. Both my grandfather and father are recovering alcoholics so I try to be very careful knowing it could easily be me as well.

Quoting --Aly--:“ I'm saying, if its a genetic passed on disease then how come little kids aren't already drinking?”

It's not the act of picking up a bottle. It's the inabilitity to put it down once you start. That's what is genetic.

Quoting J&LsMommy:“ My dad just overcame his alcohol addiction after about 20 years. I'm not sure it was soon enough to ... [snip!] ... Both my grandfather and father are recovering alcoholics so I try to be very careful knowing it could easily be me as well.”

OT but your post count is 5883, and that used to be the number for the section my daughter was in when she was in the NICU.

Lol.

Any way.

i live with an alcholic, i dont think its a problem/habit, like people who smoke they smoke more in stressfull times then they do in happy times, the person i live with thats an alcholic would drink 24/7 if he didnt have to work, but he has to work to support his habit and by supporting his habit we(my partner child and i) miss out on alot of things, we are not only suporting our family but we are also supporting him, he pays 50$ in rent each fortnight(every 2 weeks) never cleans cooks(unless for himself) and never buys food unless he is out, i haev found he drinsk more when he is pissed off something is going wrong like his ex wife has been on his back about some bullshit

he does drink a bottle and half of wine every night though and some nights it will be two bottles and when he is drunk i really fear for my life, but with rent being the way it is now we cant afford to get out(well we would if michael would listen to me) one night he satrted a fight with us just because michael asked him nicely to take the dog tonight, he said it three times and bruno kept saying huh huh huh and then micahel got pissed off cuz he was talking over him and he fianlly told himt o get the fuck outta our room and take the dog i was trying to get kaidyn to sleep and it ended up in michael having to push him out of our room, then he went to the kitchen and smashed everything up it was horrible

then the next day he called us up wanting to know what size clothes kaidyn was, he bought him two shirts, its his way of sucking up when he has done something wrong he has always done it thats what annoys me about it all he thinks that buying things for us or our son is going to make everythign better or taking us out for lunch or dinner, but it doesnt just a matter of time before the next time it happens

Quoting Mama of 3:“ It's not the act of picking up a bottle. It's the inabilitity to put it down once you start. That's what is genetic.”

All right, so they said to begin was because they were too.

So..

double post sorry

Quoting ~Terra~ CowgirlUP:“ Right! Kind of like smoking. Nobody forced you to put that cig to your mouth.”

I agree. There is a difference between addiction and disease.