Quoting merbobear:“ What proof do you have? I'm not being smart, either, I am just genuinely curious. btw, to the ... [snip!] ... other responses, maybe ignorance IS bliss and I would rather be blissful than right in some cases. This is a tough question  ”

For me personally, it's the lack of direction i feel when i doubt the creator. When i trust in him, i find the answers i was looking for. its like the wind - u cant see it but you can feel its presence...

and i think that each reigion just has its own way of worshipping the same higher power. my family is native and we call god the creator...

Quoting WiFeY- MoMMy- PReGGo:“ For me personally, it's the lack of direction i feel when i doubt the creator. When i trust in him, ... [snip!] ... that each reigion just has its own way of worshipping the same higher power. my family is native and we call god the creator...”

That is not proof, however.

That's simply your faith that there is a higher power.

As for the OP's question...yes, I would much rather know that my belief is based on something false.

I vote no. Having faith is why we dont need "proof".....thats all the proof we need. Besides, if someone proved that religion were false, what the heck would we have to hold onto?

Anyone who says no is a prime canidate for the scorn of God, if there is one.

Blindfolded belief out of cowardice and or weakness, refusal to accept possible facts that disprove something that you cling to, while claiming that your god loves truth and honesty and is the ultimate embodiment of truth and righteousness is laughable.

If I were God, I would disdain any "follower" who was so weak that they cared more about propping up their lives with cuddly soft fallacies. Or believed in me because of some vague, subjective "feeling", or out of fear for their soul, or because they were "taught to", rather than embracing the truth.

As Thomas Jefferson said: "Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." Fear of damnation for not "having faith", and fearing the potential that it's all a sham, and clinging to the illusion to sustain oneself.

OR, as another put it: "Uncertainty is an honest state of emotion.
A person has broken well into the open when he or she can say "I don't know"(or "I'm not certain"). To realize that you don't know this or that is the beginning of new wisdom. It is never wrong to be spiritually hungry.
What IS wrong is to accept a piece of fruit without determining whether it is real or artificial."
-Vernon Howard


Saying faith needs no proof is one of the most illogical, irresponsible, and conciously dishonest things a person can say.

That's all I have to say about that.

I don't knowI I am "devout" per se... That seems much more pious than I really am... I have faith tho, and if its all a crock, I don't want to know. Because it gives me hope and comfort and peace, and if it isn't true its not hurting me to believe, but I could quickly become a very bitter, angry and cynical person if I did not have my faith.

Quoting Obsidus:“ Anyone who says no is a prime canidate for the scorn of God, if there is one. Blindfolded belief out ... [snip!] ... of the most illogical, irresponsible, and conciously dishonest things a person can say. That's all I have to say about that.”

      

I completely agree...you have said everythign I was thinking...only I could not figure out how to word it.

Quoting Obsidus:“ Anyone who says no is a prime canidate for the scorn of God, if there is one. Blindfolded belief out ... [snip!] ... of the most illogical, irresponsible, and conciously dishonest things a person can say. That's all I have to say about that.”

Faith is something you can't see but you believe, did you have proof that your marriage or baby or anything else in life would work out? No you didn't, its called you had faith in the two of you, so if you think that is illogical, irresponsible and dishonest I feel bad for you

Quoting mama3:“ Faith is something you can't see but you believe, did you have proof that your marriage or baby or ... [snip!] ... its called you had faith in the two of you, so if you think that is illogical, irresponsible and dishonest I feel bad for you”

I like that response...  

Quoting Vicky Lynn *Evil Bitch*:“ I like that response...  ”

Faith isn't just a religious thing, it really is a day to day basis on things we take for granted.  

I don't believe in religion itself. I believe in God and that He created everything. I think that religions are a bunch of scams. I believe in following the bible and Jesus's teachings.
Which bible? you might ask... The one that was written by God's hand, not all those other "bibles" that have been [interpreted], they are just another book.

Quoting ~yelena~:“ I don't believe in religion itself. I believe in God and that He created everything. I think that religions ... [snip!] ... The one that was written by God's hand, not all those other "bibles" that have been [interpreted], they are just another book.”

wait...lol you have a bible that was written by GOD's hand himself???

woah I bet you could get a lot of money for that on ebay.

Quoting Wallawallabingbang:“ wait...lol you have a bible that was written by GOD's hand himself??? woah I bet you could get a lot of money for that on ebay.”

I meant by His hand through other people.

There wasn't an answer for "WTF" so I said no.

You don't have to have proof to believe in something. You have to have proof to accept something. If someone asked me, "Do you believe in evolution" I would say no because it's not a matter of belief. There is enough evidence to convince me of the fact and therefore I accept it. But if you ask me, "Do you believe I will pay you back if I borrow $100 from you?" the fact that you've always paid me back before does not constitue proof that you will do it this time. So I have to believe you when you say it.

Quoting Mavick:“ Hmmm.. I don't wanna start anything, but this pissed me off. I know for a fact that its not false, personal experiences and history and whatnot. I'm not in the mood for debating though”

I missed this thread.

What is your problem?

C.

Quoting EmmaGrace:“ Hope the laser hurts like hell and you get huge welps all over your ass and can't sit down for a week! ... [snip!] ... week! You'll have to buy one of those doughnut pillows to sit on...haha! And everyone including Renee will call you welpy ass.”

Bwhahahaha

C.