Abortion Activist Given Order of Canada

Or·der of Can·a·da
noun
Definition:
Canadian award:in Canada, an order awarded to somebody considered to have made an outstanding contribution to society.Companion, Officer, and Member are the three possible grades.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080701/morgentaler_order_080701/20080701?hub=CTVNewsAt11

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5jHGcuD5hlHNat1KxWXY1uT8nkXLA

Above are two articles about Dr. Henry Morgentaler, an abortion activist, receiving the Order of Canada.

I thought it would be interesting to hear people different views on it.

Well I'm Pro-Life. So that pretty much says it all.
To me there isn't a difference between killing an infant in or out of the womb. To me there both disgusting and selfish.

fantastic! another reason to like canada.

I don't feel like reading, but I feel opinionated...lol.

Quoting bittermelon:“ fantastic! another reason to like canada.”

 

I think its wonderful. There need to be more people out there to protect womens health.

I believe it was a positive contribution to society.

Instead of subjecting women to dangerous back alley illegal abortions they gave them a safe place to go regardless of their personal beliefs on the subject. In a free society women should have the ability to decide what they think is best for themselves.

Quoting PillowPants LipstickMafia:“   I think its wonderful. There need to be more people out there to protect womens health.”

Yea, this doctor didn't just promote abortions for the women who wanted to terminate their pregnancy by choice, but those who medically needed one because their lives were at risk etc.

Quoting Beth [due 12-1-08]:“ I believe it was a positive contribution to society. Instead of subjecting women to dangerous back ... [snip!] ... beliefs on the subject. In a free society women should have the ability to decide what they think is best for themselves.”

Ditto this  

Quoting CarrieAnne08:“ Well I'm Pro-Life. So that pretty much says it all. To me there isn't a difference between killing an infant in or out of the womb. To me there both disgusting and selfish.”

I agree with you 100%. Even if I knew I would die in child birth, to me, that child's life is more important than my own.

Quoting Elizabeth *11~08*:“ I agree with you 100%. Even if I knew I would die in child birth, to me, that child's life is more important than my own.”

Well, not all people feel that way and it doesn't make them murderers.

What if your baby was suffering? What about the woman who had no amniotic fluid so her baby was floating around in the womb with new broken bones everyday. The child would suffer all the way through the pregnancy and then die a few hours after labor IF he made it that far. Is it selfish to put the poor baby out of his misery? Or should we all just let our babies suffer so we don't get called "murderers"?

And what about the 11 year old girl who was raped by her uncle? Should she be forced to carry out a pregnancy that was forced upon her when she is still a child herself?

Quoting Elizabeth *11~08*:“ I agree with you 100%. Even if I knew I would die in child birth, to me, that child's life is more important than my own.”

Exactly! Being a mother is the act of true love not fear in selfishness. Who's to say those tests are always right? I've know women being told they would be giving birth to a dead baby but there love for the baby was greater and turned out the doctors where wrong.

But some women value there life over there unborn child's...sadly.

Quoting Beth [due 12-25-08]:“ Well, not all people feel that way and it doesn't make them murderers. What if your baby was suffering? ... [snip!] ... raped by her uncle? Should she be forced to carry out a pregnancy that was forced upon her when she is still a child herself?”

I see your point although I don't agree with it.

Have you ever seen an abortion?

Sticking a still rod threw a baby's brain or taking a vacuum and sucking it's brains out. The baby suffers threw that as well.

I personally would rather my child die from natural causes then pay someone to kill my child even if he was in pain.

How about full term abortions where they slit the baby's brain open and drowned it in a bucket? That's not suffering for a baby?

Besides that only 12% abortions are actually done for medical reasons the rest is because the child is unwanted.

Quoting CarrieAnne08:“ I see your point although I don't agree with it. Have you ever seen an abortion? Sticking ... [snip!] ... a baby? Besides that only 12% abortions are actually done for medical reasons the rest is because the child is unwanted.”

this totally proves my point that lifers have almost zero credible information about abortion.

you need to quit watching that crap on youtube from the 1970s.

Quoting bittermelon:“ this totally proves my point that lifers have almost zero credible information about abortion. you need to quit watching that crap on youtube from the 1970s.”

From the 1970's? Really? You think the way they do abortions today is humane? That's interesting....

The following is a description of the various types of abortions that are performed in this country.


RU-486

RU-486 is a drug that produces an abortion. It is taken after the mother misses her period. It can be used up to the second month of pregnancy. It works by blocking progesterone, a crucial hormone during pregnancy. Without progesterone, the uterine lining does not provide food, fluid and oxygen to the tiny developing baby. The baby cannot survive. A second drug is then given that stimulates the uterus to contract and the baby is expelled.

Women who abort with the drug RU-486 experience nausea, severe cramping, vomiting and bleeding. But the resulting emotional distress may have even more impact. Rather than being “over with” in a few minutes (as in a surgical abortion) this abortion could last for over a week. Then, when the woman finally does abort, she will expel a tiny dead body.

Suction-Aspiration

In this method, the cervical muscle ring must be paralyzed and stretched open. The abortionist then inserts a hollow plastic tube with a knife-like edge into the uterus. The suction tears the baby’s body into pieces. The placenta is cut from the uterine wall and everything is sucked into a bottle.


Dilation and Curettage (D and C)

This is similar to a suction procedure except a curette, a loop-shaped steel knife is inserted into the uterus. The baby and placenta are cut into pieces and scraped out into a basin. Bleeding is usually very heavy with this method.


Dilation and Evacuation (D and E)
This type of abortion is done after the third month of pregnancy. The cervix must be dilated before the abortion. Usually Laminaria sticks are inserted into the cervix. These are made of sterilized seaweed that is compressed into thin sticks. When inserted, they absorb moisture and expand, thus enlarging the cervix. A pliers-like instrument is inserted through the cervix into the uterus. The abortionist then seizes a leg, arm or other part of the baby and, with a twisting motion, tears it from the body. This continues until only the head remains. Finally the skull is crushed and pulled out. The nurse must then reassemble the body parts to be sure that all of them were removed.

Prostaglandin Abortion

Prostaglandin is a hormone that induces labor. The baby usually dies from the trauma of the delivery. However, if the baby is old enough, it will be born alive. This is called a “complication.” To prevent this, some abortionists use ultrasound to guide them as they inject a “feticide” (a drug that kills the fetus) into the unborn baby’s heart. They then administer prostaglandin and a dead baby is delivered. This type of abortion is used in mid and late term pregnancies.


Dilation and Extraction (D and X)

This abortion is also used on mid and late term babies, from 4 to 9 months gestation. Ultrasound is used to identify how the unborn baby is facing in the womb. The abortionist inserts forceps through the cervical canal into the uterus and grasps one of the baby’s legs, positioning the baby feet first, face down (breech position). The child’s body is then pulled out of the birth canal except for the head which is too large to pass through the cervix. The baby is alive, and probably kicking and flailing his legs and arms. The abortionist hooks his fingers over the baby’s shoulders, holding the woman’s cervix away from the baby’s neck. He then jams blunt tipped surgical scissors into the base of the skull and spreads the tips apart to enlarge the wound. A suction catheter is inserted into the baby’s skull and the brain is sucked out. The skull collapses and the baby’s head passes easily through the cervix.

Abortion is called a “choice”. What is really chosen is the killing of a human being. The methods differ but the results are the same - a dead baby. Even abortion supporters admit this. Dr. Malcom Watts, writing a pro-abortion piece for the California Medical Association said: “...it has been necessary to separate the idea of abortion from the idea of killing, which continues to be socially abhorrent. The result has been a curious avoidance of the scientific fact, which everyone really knows, that human life begins at conception and is continuous until death.” The real question is not about “choice.” It is whether we have the right to kill over 4,000 human beings a day, for any reason.

Quoting AmandaLaura:“ Or·der of Can·a·da noun Definition: Canadian award:in Canada, an order awarded to somebody considered ... [snip!] ... an abortion activist, receiving the Order of Canada. I thought it would be interesting to hear people different views on it.”

Glad to hear it, he's done great work. He's pretty controversial, even in Canada, and I think this is a great decision.

I can't help but laugh at Harper's distancing himself from this.

C.