re: Poor hubby :( (tmi)

<blockquote><b>Quoting Belle.:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ivana, expecting #3!:</b>" thank you!! soI'much damn misinformation ... [snip!] ... skin and now he always has problems with it. Circumsision can easily be avoided! People need to get educated on proper care."</blockquote>




I agree with you, there could be more negative effects with curcumsision like if they take to much skin or not enough and if its not taken care of properly then its more likely to get infected and cause more damage and problems later on. Im glad i didn't do it with my son, whether he chooses to get it done when he is older, its HIS penis there for its HIS choice to do so, not mine or his dads. Things like that should only be considered if its medically nessessary.

But either way, i hope he has a smooth and fast healing process!! :-)

<blockquote><b>Quoting Belle.:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" You assume that you are more educated than ... [snip!] ... Well she clearly is! My SO was going to sue the nurse. You are NOT supposed to just pull it down when it closes up like that."</blockquote>




Why "was"?

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mama♥Breezy:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" did that happen after proper care? I know ... [snip!] ... to her since though, so I have no idea what went on with that. Sounds painful to fix once they're older though. Ouch! >_<"</blockquote>



You're very well spoken. Lol

<blockquote><b>Quoting Ivana, expecting #3!:</b>" thank you!! so much damn misinformation out there about it, it's sickening to me!! Babies do remember ... [snip!] ... are plenty of problems resulting from circumcision, too. More problems actually people are just unaware and think it's normal."</blockquote>




Yeah, you met an adult who remembers his circumcision as a baby?

<blockquote><b>Quoting Ivana, expecting #3!:</b>" oh but they still have to rip and tear the fused foreskin off of the glans before putting that band on! ... [snip!] ... have been cases where the band never fell off on it's own and resulted in part or all of the penis needing to be amputated. "</blockquote>




  Where in the world are you getting this information?

Quoting Red Bottom:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mama♥Breezy:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... with that. Sounds painful to fix once they're older though. Ouch! >_<"</blockquote> You're very well spoken. Lol"

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not...   Thank you?

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mama♥Breezy:</b>" I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not...   Thank you?"</blockquote>




Lol not sarcastic.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mama♥Breezy:</b>" I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not...   Thank you?"</blockquote> Lol not sarcastic."</blockquote>


Oh, okay. Thank you.

Quoting Red Bottom:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ivana, expecting #3!:</b>" oh but they still have to rip and ... [snip!] ... or all of the penis needing to be amputated. "</blockquote>   Where in the world are you getting this information?"

online, it's all over. just because your son's circumcision went "well" doesn't mean that's the case for everyone. Babies have lost their penises to circumcision!

Quoting Red Bottom:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ivana, expecting #3!:</b>" thank you!! so much damn misinformation ... [snip!] ... just unaware and think it's normal."</blockquote> Yeah, you met an adult who remembers his circumcision as a baby?"

that's not the point, their brains are forever altered, and just because someone won't remember something is no reason to put them through an unnecessary, painful procedure with no benefits.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Ivana, expecting #3!:</b>" online, it's all over. just because your son's circumcision went "well" doesn't mean that's the case for everyone. Babies have lost their penises to circumcision!"</blockquote>




And some people are allergic to water. However generally everything is fine. I see you've been unable to cite your plethora of knowledge.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Ivana, expecting #3!:</b>" that's not the point, their brains are forever altered, and just because someone won't remember something is no reason to put them through an unnecessary, painful procedure with no benefits."</blockquote>




I had my sons done to avoid getting it done later out if personal preference or medical need. Show me a mind altering study about circumcised vs uncircumcised parties.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ivana, expecting #3!:</b>" that's not the point, their brains ... [snip!] ... later out if personal preference or medical need. Show me a mind altering study about circumcised vs uncircumcised parties."</blockquote>


I would love to see this study too, lol.
My son was numb before he went in, then numbed again before it was done (cream, then needle), my husband and I went in with him, the procedure took maybe 3 minutes and guess what.....my son didn't even make a peep, no tears, no cry, no whimper.....honestly, I didn't even realize or expect that it would be so simple. And I did research it in advance, but my research was more based around finding the highest rated urologist to perform the procedure.

Quoting Red Bottom:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ivana, expecting #3!:</b>" that's not the point, their brains ... [snip!] ... later out if personal preference or medical need. Show me a mind altering study about circumcised vs uncircumcised parties."

in regards to what?? sensation, sexual function...? But that doesn't really matter, the point is you are forcing a helpless newborn to be strapped down and undergo a painful procedure for no good reason, one that HE will have to live with, not you! It just isn't right. Not your penis, not your choice!! All those studies are good and well drmomma.org
savingoursons.org
http://www.sexasnatureintendedit.com/ (NSFW)
http://www.circumstitions.com/Botched1.html (NSFW)
http://www.mendocomplain.com/

But at the end of the day, the fact is, someone else's body is being altered and changed without their consent, again, for no good reason!! there are no benefits at all.

Quoting Momma x 2:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ivana, expecting ... [snip!] ... did research it in advance, but my research was more based around finding the highest rated urologist to perform the procedure."

Look up neurogenic shock, I can assure you your poor baby was not sleeping peacefully through having his penis circumcised.

http://www.drmomma.org/2009/11/circumcision-how-much-does-it-hurt.html
this link is chock full of pain studies, so it is not just someone talking about it, but actual facts about babies handle being circumcised.