re: Circumcision outcome?

There is always a scar with circumcision, have you ever seen a cut penis? Circumcision is a human rights violation, your son is not a rose bush to prune however you see fit to match his dad. His body should be not be carved up because mom wants her sons penis to look like dads, that is cosmetic surgery on an awake newborn who did not consent to this modification. All boys and girls are perfect and do not need their genitals sliced apart for any reason. Forced genital cutting is torture, watch a video to see how your son will earn the scar you so want him to have

Quoting Megan Sampson:" There is always a scar with circumcision, have you ever seen a cut penis? Circumcision is a human rights ... [snip!] ... for any reason. Forced genital cutting is torture, watch a video to see how your son will earn the scar you so want him to have"

Greeeeaaaaaaaat first post.   She didn't ask for you to spew insults at her. She asked for circumcision success stories. So take your negativity elsewhere.

My first was circ'd just because I literally knew nothing about it. I didn't even know they had to cut them to do it. When Toby came back to me bleeding, I freaked out. I didn't learn the facts until we were trying to conceive Brennan and all the sex was making me sooo sore. I was googling how to make the soreness go away and that's when links came up about circumcision causing problems for guys as adults. Problems we didn't even realize weren't normal. I was always sore after sex, so i didn't think any different. It was then that I realized we made a horrible mistake. My husband came home to me holding Toby and crying after watching a video on youtube of a circ being done =[ I told Jo we were going to stop trying until he agreed with me not to do it again. I didn't know I was already preggo, but Jo did come around after he couldn't even sit through 2 mins of the video and HE was bawling. Now, Toby is 2.5 and has adhesions that are painful and making his penis curve. Its a double edge sword because if we try to fix it, its going to cause problems later, but if we don't he's going to be in pain and have a crooked penis. We're waiting a bit to see if the adhesions release on their own, but seeing my son grab his diaper and scream every time he gets even a slight erection, crushes me because it was MY mistake, yet he is paying for it. PLEASE look up more info before making the decision since you can't undo it. Here's some other good sites: wholenetwork.org. http://www.4eric.org/. http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/.

Pull up the video of it being done on youtube too. If you can't sit through watching it, don't put your son through it. My second son is intact and has no issues. Neither do my friends sons who are babies to adults. Taking care of an intact child is super easy too. You don't retract EVER since the skin is adhered to the head like your nail to your finger. Just wipe it clean on the outside and when they are big enough to retract themselves, they just rinse it in the shower. Its no different than a girl would have to do.

Quoting Emily Cobb-Minson:" they do put the child to sleep to do the procedure. my son was circumsized with no problems. he is now ... [snip!] ... infection and bumps. my father was not done, he is 57. he's had incompetence issues for years now. i urge you to get it done."

I've never seen where they put the baby to sleep. When I was researching it with my youngest, it said that they strap them down to do it but they don't put them to sleep or give them medicine for it (if I'm not mistaken)

Cuting babies is a very negative, human rights violation so it will attract negativity. Torturing babies is wrong. There are no successful outcomes, unless you consider complete amputation of the most sensitive area of another persons body against their will successful. Every infant being forced to endure genital cutting risks ther life, their genitals, their sex life and their well being and all that at the hands of the one who is supposed to protect him or her. These babies are awake, strapped down by all fours and screaming until they go into shock as they're sliced. Their bodies are violated. They deserve protection not alteration.

Quoting Megan Sampson:" Cuting babies is a very negative, human rights violation so it will attract negativity. Torturing babies ... [snip!] ... and screaming until they go into shock as they're sliced. Their bodies are violated. They deserve protection not alteration."

My son was asleep. He didn't even know what was going on. He wasn't put to sleep. He was just a sleepy NB. Everything you've said here does not apply to EVERY child. And there are plenty of children who handle circumcision just fine. There are risks either way. And she's already decided that this is what she wants to do. Berating her and insulting her isn't going to likely change her mind.

Quoting Megan Sampson:" Cuting babies is a very negative, human rights violation so it will attract negativity. Torturing babies ... [snip!] ... and screaming until they go into shock as they're sliced. Their bodies are violated. They deserve protection not alteration."

Weird because DS slept throught the whole thing. Never screamed or cried once.
She's already made the decision to circumcise her son. That is her decision not yours. She did not come here to be called a bad person by you. Please move along.

You just contradicted yourself. You can't put a newborn under general anesthesia for circumcision. Do some research, watch a video. It is always torture to cut a babies genitals, male or female it is wrong. He is still whole, she can take him home whole as he will be born. Research is the key to this, we must be informed on everything for our babies. Babies do not need to be tortured and cut apart, changed for life without any choice for their own bodies. It isn't insulting and of your offended by the truth do some research, it's the truth. It's not pretty, it's not nice but this is torture at its worst.

Still don't care if people choose to cut or not, but just wanted to add that suddenly falling asleep is a defense mechanism in a newb

Quoting Megan Sampson:" You just contradicted yourself. You can't put a newborn under general anesthesia for circumcision. Do ... [snip!] ... your offended by the truth do some research, it's the truth. It's not pretty, it's not nice but this is torture at its worst."

I've done research on it and you don't see me sitting here telling her that she will be torturing her child. It's her decision. You are against it, that's great. Don't do it to your children. But that also doesn't give you the right to try and tell her that she is doing something wrong to her child when it's her and her SO's choice, not yours.

The sleeping through circumcision idea is called neural shock. Imagine your clitoral good being ripped off the clitoris (leaving scar tissue like the tip of a circumcised penis) and then the newly torn skin clamped and crushed and then a scalpel amputates what was JUST a perfectly healthy and fully functioning organ. Imagine that was happening to you while you were strapped by your legs and wrists and no one helped you, no one felt compassion for what was happening to you, instead someone is in the waiting room saying "did you remove enough of HER skin". That is torture. That is what is being forced on our tiniest, most vulnerable boys. They did nothing to deserve that. Research for him. That's all you have to do to understand what will happen behind those doors.

Quoting Megan Sampson:" You just contradicted yourself. You can't put a newborn under general anesthesia for circumcision. Do ... [snip!] ... your offended by the truth do some research, it's the truth. It's not pretty, it's not nice but this is torture at its worst."

How did I contradict myself? He was ASLEEP. He was not PUT to sleep. He was just ASLEEP. As in.. Done eating, mom, going to sleep for 3 hours now. And during one of those naps, they circumcised him. It wasn't anesthesia or a defense mechanism. Just regular, normal sleep.


And again, you being rude about it isn't going to change her mind.

my sons were circ'd and my last boys circ kept re adhering...it looked fine his skin just kept healing...so i just kept pulling the skin back and adding vasoline...it is fine now hes 14m
my other boys are 5 and 3 and theirs also look fine...

and i saw 2 babies get circ'd they werent my children...(saw this in my peds clinical ) and the protocol at the hospital was to strap the legs down numb the baby's junk..and the nurse would hold his arms...while having something to suck on neither of those babies cried during the procedure...it was the undressing part they didnt like after that they were fine even with the stick from the lidocaine...to numb...
they went back to their mommies not crying as well!

Rude? I'm telling you the truth. And that sleep is a defense mechanism. You do not fall asleep while your genitalia are being attacked. Neural shock in newborns is a very well documented event that consistently happens during forced circumcision. Research. Please. It is our babies, we have to protect them from harm. Why are you so decided to harm your children if you knew how damaging and traumatic it is?

Quoting Danielle: Jack&Basil'sMom:" It is soooooo creepy that you want to fashion your son's penis after your husband's"

A-yup. O.o