re: What do you think of Pro-Lifers?

Quoting xTJ:" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" I dont think I'm misinterpreting. YOU just questioned ... [snip!] ... a thing was you. Can we all keep up with the actual conversation and statements or is that just too incredibly difficult?"

I dont believe I'm misinterpretting her, while i have with you.
In response to my statement, "abortion is taking a life," she said something about so is eating meat or killing to eat meat or something like that. SHE made the clear and distinct comparison. It's the same issue of taking a human life compared with an animals life.

Quoting TheNuge:" I dont believe I'm misinterpretting her, while i have with you. In response to my statement, "abortion ... [snip!] ... that. SHE made the clear and distinct comparison. It's the same issue of taking a human life compared with an animals life."

Her response to "abortion is certainly taking a life"

was "Never said it wasn't. So is killing an animal..for food."

So to me she was making the comparison that The Nuge is talking about.

<blockquote><b>Quoting xTJ:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" So, you have the ability to save one life in ... [snip!] ... human life be seen to be more important that we think nothing in killing an animal for food but throw our hands up at abortion."</blockquote>




Thank you. This is what I've been trying to get out.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Nicola =):</b>" Her response to "abortion is certainly taking a life" was "Never said it wasn't. So is killing an animal..for food." So to me she was making the comparison that The Nuge is talking about."</blockquote>




Yes. Killing an animal...for food, is still taking a life.

To me, an abortion (in the early weeks to be clear) is NOTHING in comparison to the atrocities that are done at slaughterhouses.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Nicola =):</b>" Her response to "abortion is certainly taking a life" was "Never said it wasn't. So is killing an animal..for food." So to me she was making the comparison that The Nuge is talking about."</blockquote>




I also never said eating a cheeseburger is killing an animal either. It does however perpetuate the cycle.

<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" I dont believe I'm misinterpretting her, while i have with you. In response to my statement, "abortion ... [snip!] ... that. SHE made the clear and distinct comparison. It's the same issue of taking a human life compared with an animals life."</blockquote>




Ok. At the very raw basics of it taking a human life or taking the life of an animal is still taking a life, I mean that is the basic truth.

There isn't anything absurd about her posing the question of how the routine killing of an animal is seen as the norm but aborting a fetus for the greater good of the woman carrying it is a major issue for some people, particularly when they use the argument of protecting "life".

<blockquote><b>Quoting Nicola =):</b>" Her response to "abortion is certainly taking a life" was "Never said it wasn't. So is killing an animal..for food." So to me she was making the comparison that The Nuge is talking about."</blockquote>




Yes because killing an animal for food is taking a life. The Nuge saying at that point that what Ice Princess had compared was having an abortion to being no different from eating a burger was a complete misinterpretation. She never once made any type of comparison of abortion to eating she made the comparison that taking a human life or animal life for food is still taking a life. I mean that is a fact, when you kill an animal you are taking a life.

Quoting xTJ:" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" I dont believe I'm misinterpretting her, while ... [snip!] ... good of the woman carrying it is a major issue for some people, particularly when they use the argument of protecting "life"."

I think it IS an absurd question/comparison. Routine killing for food is certainly for the greater good and it's the norm as we are omnivores.
Deciding to end the life of your unborn child, even when there is a very strong srguement about it being for the greater good THANKFULLY is not considered routine for most of our population. Putting the killing for food and abortion in the same context reagarding "protecting life" is truly absurd.

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Ice Princess~:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting xTJ:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" ... [snip!] ... for food but throw our hands up at abortion."</blockquote> Thank you. This is what I've been trying to get out."</blockquote>



I personally don't understand why you need to "try" and get your point across. I mean it's not like your using incredibly difficult and complex language, it's pretty basic for anyone to read and understand. Why your statements have to be broken down and repeatedly explained is amusing to me.


"Killing an animal for food is taking a life."

"Erhmagerd she just said having an abortion is the same as eating a Berger!"

"Uhm no she said killing an animal for food is is taking a life, because it is."



Seriously WTF? Where are these connections even being made?

Quoting ~Ice Princess~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Nicola =):</b>" Her response to "abortion is certainly taking ... [snip!] ... me, an abortion (in the early weeks to be clear) is NOTHING in comparison to the atrocities that are done at slaughterhouses."

While what happens in slaughterhouses in some places is truly abhorrent, you continue to equate taking the life of a Tyson chicken to taking the life of a unborn human.

<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" I think it IS an absurd question/comparison. Routine killing for food is certainly for the greater ... [snip!] ... of our population. Putting the killing for food and abortion in the same context reagarding "protecting life" is truly absurd."</blockquote>




Yup all of that is correct, routine killing of animals for food is for the greater good to sustain us as we are omnivores, yes it's needed, etc, etc. Yes we've already established all that stuff it still doesn't change at the very basics of it they are both taking a life and they can also be compared in that we have no real understanding in the emotional or physical pain that the animal or human fetus feels at that particular moment. We cannot know that, probably never will. Well personally I'm not really concerned with the whole "protecting life" movement, I'm a big meat eater and pro-choice person so makes no difference to me.

I'm neither Pro-Life or Pro-Choice, I simply hate abortion yet know I can't impose my opinion and repress another's freedom of choice/actions. I generally have no issues with Pro-Lifers, but can agree that some can become very extreme to the point of ignorance. Same goes with extreme Pro-Choicers.

When I encounter myself with those kind of pro-lifers, is usuallly when I'm on the internet.

So, those tend to be people who I don't know anything about other than they are trying to push their gross propaganda on me.

But yeah, I feel upset when they try to make me change my mind with wrong information. They make me upset, lol

I myself don't believe in abortion, but I also believe that we shouldn't judge those that do get abortions. I believe that some Christians take things to a certain level that is not needed. They come to and way beyond the point of judgement. Which if you are a true Christian you do not judge. You would be there to comfort and help those women.

I myself am a Christian, but I do not judge because it is not my place to. I would tell them I don't believe in it, but I would still love them and help them. I believe it is killing human life, but I am not going to hate you because you do it.
It is my belief and my morals.....I will respect your beliefs as I would hope you would respect mine.