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re: would this be sexual abuse?

posted 15th Feb
Quoting 6 blessings so far....:" Later in the posts we find out its not the boyfriend....its an exboyfriend w/abusive/stalker tendancies."


In that case... maybe date rape (and absolutely statutory rape if someone was going to press charges...)

However-- since she was fine with having him there, and fine with drinking around him, and fine with doing sexual things with him (up to a point)-- it would be very hard to convict on the date rape.
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I'm due September 11th (a boy), have 1 child & live in Syracuse, New York
posted 15th Feb
Yes she tried to go to the police but they didn't do anything because they knew him. That's how the cops in that town are unfortunately.
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I live in New Jersey
posted 15th Feb
Sorry but she should of know what she was getting herself into and be more responsible when getting wasted. No excuse or no need to play the blaming game. Yes is wrong but she consent it while drunk so I dont think it was sexual abuse or rape.
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I live in California
posted 15th Feb
I think that whether it was or was not isn't even relevant. If she feels abused, she needs to seek counseling to help her cope.

The fact is however, that if she was drunk enough to lack the ability to consent to anal, then she lacked the ability to consent to the sex in its entirety. What I mean is that either the entire encounter was rape (because she wasn't able to consent due to being that drunk) or it wasn't. You can't say she was too drunk to consent to anal, but she was about to consent to oral/vaginal. Either she was able to consent or not. I go with no, but my stand on it is pretty firm. If a person is drunk, they lack the ability to consent and you should not have sex with them. Pretty simple to me.
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I live in ?
posted 19th Feb
Exactly. I told her whether she consented or not if she was as drunk as she says and in and out of consciousness (which is something she shouldn't have done being only 16) then he should've at least respected her enough to not have sex with her knowing the kind of condition she was in. I told her it was more of a matter of his character, judgment (as well as hers) and his respect for her more than anything.
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I live in New Jersey
posted 19th Feb
<blockquote><b>Quoting Cnc1990:</b>" Exactly. I told her whether she consented or not if she was as drunk as she says and in and out of consciousness ... [snip!] ... in. I told her it was more of a matter of his character, judgment (as well as hers) and his respect for her more than anything."</blockquote>




If she is 16 she shouldnt even be drinking. Sorry but I just hate when little girls act like if they are grown and think that they can drink and then whine when something like this happend. That is just pittiful. Sorry if I am sounding like a bitch.
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I live in California
posted 19th Feb
No you're not sounding like a bitch at all I agree 16 year olds should focus on school and junior prom or whatever not drinking and sex
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I live in New Jersey
posted 19th Feb
<blockquote><b>Quoting Cnc1990:</b>" No you're not sounding like a bitch at all I agree 16 year olds should focus on school and junior prom or whatever not drinking and sex"</blockquote>




Was he drunk too? You dont trust anyone especially if you are going to get wasted with a guy. Sounds like there was no bff there to look out for her. If there is someone to blame here is her.
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I live in California
posted 19th Feb
it was a party of their mutual friends. She says he was only tipsy but who knows.
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I live in New Jersey
posted 19th Feb
<blockquote><b>Quoting Cnc1990:</b>" it was a party of their mutual friends. She says he was only tipsy but who knows."</blockquote>




You know the chances of these things happening on such teen parties. She should of known but oh well. How was your day what time is it over there?
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I live in California
posted 19th Feb
Exactly. My day was pretty productive cleaning wise, and it's 3:23 am. I have insomnia =/ lol
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I live in New Jersey
posted 19th Feb
<blockquote><b>Quoting Cnc1990:</b>" Exactly. My day was pretty productive cleaning wise, and it's 3:23 am. I have insomnia =/


Lol and bg is the right place for that  
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I live in California
posted 19th Feb
haha yes it is. So what time is it where you're from?
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I live in New Jersey
posted 19th Feb
<blockquote><b>Quoting Cnc1990:</b>" haha yes it is. So what time is it where you're from?"</blockquote>

Close to 1am
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I live in California
posted 19th Feb
lol I wish it was that early here.
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I live in New Jersey
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