re: Life and death....please read (explanation to kids)

Quoting Vindictive:" A kitten =/= an egg. YOU could have killed them by removing them from the tank to begin with. You ... [snip!] ... with. You told him there may be babies inside. He's 5, he was probably curious and impatient. Smurf happens. He's a child FFS."

I agree a kitten is different than an egg but he wasn't interested in these eggs till I went to sleep last night. Eggs are fragile to begin with and I told him not to touch them because he could hurt them.

Quoting flip off:" We have 3 turtles. He loves them and even "plays" with 2 of them because the third one is kind of a ... [snip!] ... this. We have cats as well and he's great with them. But just because it's a turtle doesn't mean he can be "mean" with them"

move the tank to where he cant get to it. until he is mature enough to understand.

<blockquote><b>Quoting flip off:</b>" He crushed the eggs....CRUSHED them. If he hit a kitten with a hammer or stepped on it, would you feel ... [snip!] ... and I would always love him but he knew he shouldn't have done that. At least I didn't beat the crap out of him or something. "</blockquote>


I'm sorry but it is not the same as hitting a kitten with a hammer. That is just laughable. He's 5, he's not a murderer and that is incredibly harsh. This honestly jut sounds like mischief. If h ha intentionally hurt his living pet turtle I would be upset like this maybe, but not for crushing some eggs, which btw were going to die anyway, because you moved them. Turtles know what they are doing by instinct, they where to lay their eggs. Are you a murderer because you moved them and they would have died anyway?

Take away some privelidges and let it go. It's not the end of the world and he isn't an evil vindictive child like you seem to think he is. He isn't doing things "just to piss you off". It actually makes me really sad for him that you feel that way about your own little boy. He is just a mischievous 5-year-old. I think you need some perspective.

And because he's a child Im supposed to ignore the fact that he completely disregarded when I said not to touch them? He's not supposed to have any punishment at all for not listening to me and crushing turtle eggs and shutting off the tank?

Quoting Vindictive:" A kitten =/= an egg. YOU could have killed them by removing them from the tank to begin with. You ... [snip!] ... with. You told him there may be babies inside. He's 5, he was probably curious and impatient. Smurf happens. He's a child FFS."

 

Quoting Elena Gilbert:" move the tank to where he cant get to it. until he is mature enough to understand."

 

Quoting MommaSav2:" <blockquote><b>Quoting flip off:</b>" He crushed the eggs....CRUSHED them. If he hit ... [snip!] ... him that you feel that way about your own little boy. He is just a mischievous 5-year-old. I think you need some perspective."

This isn't the first time he's done something like this. Mischief or not, he knew he wasn't supposed to do it and still did it. I don't need perspective. I was not harsh by yelling at him and punishing him. I'm trying to find out how to explain to him what life and death is so he doesn't do this smurf again. and that's great that you feel sorry for him. I feel sorry for him too.

<blockquote><b>Quoting flip off:</b>" My 5 year old did this. "</blockquote>




3 or 5 either way you're being too harsh.

<blockquote><b>Quoting flip off:</b>" And because he's a child Im supposed to ignore the fact that he completely disregarded when I said not ... [snip!] ... He's not supposed to have any punishment at all for not listening to me and crushing turtle eggs and shutting off the tank?"</blockquote>



No one said he doesn't deserve some kind of punishment. But you need to understand that he isn't a malicious murderous child. Punish him for not listening and for endangering his pets (the living turtles) but stop calling him a murderer and thinking he's doing this stuff vindictively to piss you off. He's five.
You told him there were babies inside, he was probably curious and trying to see what you meant. Move the tank to a place where he can't get to it.

Quoting Angel [Mariah's Mommy]:" <blockquote><b>Quoting flip off:</b>" My 5 year old did this. "</blockquote> 3 or 5 either way you're being too harsh."

I would love to know how I'm being too harsh by not letting him watch tv today? please enlighten me. Should I reward his bad behavior?

Quoting flip off:" And because he's a child Im supposed to ignore the fact that he completely disregarded when I said not ... [snip!] ... He's not supposed to have any punishment at all for not listening to me and crushing turtle eggs and shutting off the tank?"

No one said that. But comparing your 5 year old to a murderer because he got curious about some turtle eggs that 1) you left in his reach and 2) you said could have babies in them, is absolutely ridiculous.
And coming at him yelling is not an effective way of trying to get ANYTHING out of a kid. I would shut down and not talk, too, if someone came at me like that.

Explain that what he did was naughty, remove the tank from his area, and move on.

Quoting MommaSav2:" <blockquote><b>Quoting flip off:</b>" And because he's a child Im supposed to ignore ... [snip!] ... babies inside, he was probably curious and trying to see what you meant. Move the tank to a place where he can't get to it."

I didn't call him a murderer....I said I felt like he was because of what he did. I would NEVER tell my child he was a murderer. I told him what he did was wrong and that he was not allowed to watch tv or play his DSI today. I never once called him a name or anything like that. I was raising my voice while I said that which is why I said I yelled at him.

Quoting flip off:" This isn't the first time he's done something like this. Mischief or not, he knew he wasn't supposed ... [snip!] ... life and death is so he doesn't do this smurf again. and that's great that you feel sorry for him. I feel sorry for him too. "

  He's 5. He isn't going to grasp that he could have killed something. You can talk until you're blue in the fact. An egg doesn't equal potential life to a young child. That's why it isn't comparable to beating a cat with a hammer. He didn't do what he did to intentionally kill it.

<blockquote><b>Quoting flip off:</b>" And because he's a child Im supposed to ignore the fact that he completely disregarded when I said not ... [snip!] ... He's not supposed to have any punishment at all for not listening to me and crushing turtle eggs and shutting off the tank?"</blockquote>




Should you be punished when you make eggs for breakfast? Those could have been babies too..

Quoting flip off:" I didn't call him a murderer....I said I felt like he was because of what he did. I would NEVER tell ... [snip!] ... once called him a name or anything like that. I was raising my voice while I said that which is why I said I yelled at him. "

Whether you said it to his face or not is moot. You referred to your child as a murderer in this post.