Should CPS be involved if a child has FAS?

If CPS can become involved or even remove a newborn for testing positive for THC which has never been proven to be harmful and is only taboo because it is illegal (and yet waaaay less harmful than tobacco), should a newborn/child be removed for exhibiting symptoms of FAS since the alcohol consumed during pregnancy was clearly harmful to the child? Also, if you support the involvement of CPS for positive THC testing, do you think the same should be done for moms who smoked tobacco while pregnant?

Do you think that removing a child for ANYTHING done prior to birth is contradictory to laws that state that a fetus is not a person until birth?

They do it here...

CPS IS involved if a baby is born with FAS.

I get sick to see a pregnant woman smoking while pregnant BUT, I am not one to say that is CPS worthy. That one hasn't been known to cause brain damage and has "potential" damages that may or may not be linked to smoking or other issues. That one I would say is a hard case to prove. One could say that my son was born at a low birth weight but I didn't smoke. He was born 39w 6d 6lb7oz. That is a fairly small baby considering my husbands size. I am fairly "average" in size. 5'4" is fairly standard.

Quoting Not tellin:" CPS IS involved if a baby is born with FAS. I get sick to see a pregnant woman smoking while pregnant ... [snip!] ... 6d 6lb7oz. That is a fairly small baby considering my husbands size. I am fairly "average" in size. 5'4" is fairly standard. "

But if CPS can take your child for marijuana, shouldn't they do the same for tobacco since about the same is known about the actual effects (not related to inhaling smoke) of both. Doctors aren't sure what the chemicals in tobacco will do the fetus and the same with marijuana. How is one worse than the other?

Personally I think marijuana should be in the same catagory as tobacco. I don't think a baby born with thc in their system should be taken away but if they have alcohol or other "drug" I think cps should get involved. Luckily colorado is a mary jane friendly state :p

Here CPS is involved with fas. The Rez has a surplus lately of babies with fas needing temp foster homes.


I think tobacco is worse then marijuana. Both are legal here.

Quoting Not tellin:" CPS IS involved if a baby is born with FAS. I get sick to see a pregnant woman smoking while pregnant ... [snip!] ... 6d 6lb7oz. That is a fairly small baby considering my husbands size. I am fairly "average" in size. 5'4" is fairly standard. "

Also, I know two people who have FAS children and have never had any CPS involvement. I know one person whose child tested positive for THC at birth and they lost the child immediately and had to fight for 6 months to get her back.

And doesn't it go against the pro-choice stance that a fetus is not a person? America's laws are arguably pro-choice: I can terminate the pregnancy, prevent the life from thriving by ending it, but I can't make choices about what I consume while carrying the fetus without fear of CPS involvement?

Quoting Nymphadora:" But if CPS can take your child for marijuana, shouldn't they do the same for tobacco since about the ... [snip!] ... aren't sure what the chemicals in tobacco will do the fetus and the same with marijuana. How is one worse than the other?"

I think the only reason they do with marijuana is because it is an illegal substance. PLUS, it is mind altering. It is unknown to what degree the baby feels the "high" or what lasting effects it can have on the baby but, tobacco isn't a mind altering substance. It doesn't get you "high" so to speak. Also, marijuana isn't a controlled substance so, one never knows what it was laced with if it was. I am also assuming that they are going with the theory that if the mother smoked pot during pregnancy, she likely was doing other things. Not that all mothers fit that category BUT, plenty do.

Here is how I view pregnancy, if you can't give up your vices and dirty little habits long enough to give your baby a fair fresh and healthy start in the world, you have no business having a baby. Being pregnant is the first test of parenthood. It is a test of your selflessness and your willness to put another ahead of you. I also get pissed when I see parents smoking with kids in the car, in their home or sitting right next to them even outdoors. I think they should have the decision later if they want to polute their lungs. I lothe the parent who gets wasted all the time as well.

I am full of opinions tonight. I should go to bed. lol

Quoting Not tellin:" I think the only reason they do with marijuana is because it is an illegal substance. PLUS, it is mind ... [snip!] ... their lungs. I lothe the parent who gets wasted all the time as well. I am full of opinions tonight. I should go to bed. lol"

What about women who are given medicinal marijuana for nausea or because they had a pre-existing condition that already warranted the prescription? CPS still gets involved until provide proof and sometimes continue to be involved because you may be "unfit" due to whatever condition got you the prescription. I don't see CPS knocking on the door of everyone who drinks alcohol or takes oxycodone with a legitimate prescription.

For Washington and Colorado mommas: Does CPS still get involved for THC positive newborns now that it is legal?

Quoting Not tellin:" I think the only reason they do with marijuana is because it is an illegal substance. PLUS, it is mind ... [snip!] ... their lungs. I lothe the parent who gets wasted all the time as well. I am full of opinions tonight. I should go to bed. lol"

hahaha dumb. babies dont feel high in the womb. Nothing that gets us high from MJ transfers to the baby, if you vape nothing is unhealthy whatsoever about MJ while preg or BF.

Cannabinoid receptors are in our bodies, and cannabinoids are only found in MJ. The only thing bad about it is smoking.

Quoting Nymphadora:" What about women who are given medicinal marijuana for nausea or because they had a pre-existing condition ... [snip!] ... prescription. For Washington and Colorado mommas: Does CPS still get involved for THC positive newborns now that it is legal?"

I agree with everyuthing you are posting. Youre awesome!

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I'm honestly not sure but I doubt CPS would be involved. Before the law even went into effect Wa dropped a few thousand charges that were pot related as long as there wasnt a violent crime attached to it

Quoting Nymphadora:" Also, I know two people who have FAS children and have never had any CPS involvement. I know one person ... [snip!] ... thriving by ending it, but I can't make choices about what I consume while carrying the fetus without fear of CPS involvement?"

That is apples and oranges. After 21 weeks you can no longer get an abortion. At that point, it is a baby. So I guess if that child comes out with birth defects caused by the mothers "habits", that is abuse and one would be inclined to believe it will not stop. Most times, CPS doesn't take the baby but, a case is opened and the mother is now on the radar and monitored. The only time I have heard of a baby being taken is if it is a meth/ herion (you get the picture) baby. Otherwise, the mother is under CPS scrutiny and has to follow a certian set of rules to get out from under their thumb.

I smoked throughout pregnancy, and while I BF. CPS did get involved, but only made 1 house visit to see I was not some crack head, and they basically told me to just make sure if I smoke heavily to make sure someone helps with the baby.
I have a script.

and i told my dr i smoked with a prescription. they just wouldnt allow me to BF while in hospital bc of their policy. but they didnt care once i left.

the only reason CPS got involved was because i live on a mountain, and i couldnt make it to the pedi at his 3 day check up for his jaundice. The nurses there called CPS because that was the rule if I didnt show up or call in time to reschedule- which I called an hour late and that was why.

CPS just read in my report that Cillian tested pos for THC. It wasn't the issues- the dr appt was. It was cleared up and they left with a smile. That was it.

Quoting Nymphadora:" What about women who are given medicinal marijuana for nausea or because they had a pre-existing condition ... [snip!] ... prescription. For Washington and Colorado mommas: Does CPS still get involved for THC positive newborns now that it is legal?"

i actually have no idea. i dont think they est for it at all in colo. even before it was legal