re: Moms on welfare

Quoting 10 til Gwen:" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting 10 til Gwen:</b>" ... [snip!] ... and still had to work 60+ hrs a week to fill in the gaps. At least HERE I don't know how anyone can survive just on state aid."

They do it all the time here. From what I've seen, have cash aid + HUD + foodstamps+ electric/heating assistance, your needs are taken care of! Make a little moola under the table trimming and you're in business  

Quoting Ms. Danielly Belly:" Ok so ladies and ok just curious to see how you feel about this topic, let me start by saying that because ... [snip!] ... kids. I know it's not right to judge a person unless your in their shoes. But just out if curiosity what's your take on it?"

Unless there are extenuating circumstances (like say someone's fertility is leaving & if they don't TTC now, they won't be able to ever) then I think it is morally & ethically weak to TTC when you can't actually afford to pay for what your children need. I also think more people can afford it than they seem to think,because they get confused between what is "nice to have" and what you actually need. Like babies for instance, so many people are willfully unwilling to even seriously consider cloth diapering. It is MUCH less expensive though. You don't need bouncy seats & all that stuff. It's nice, but totally unnecessary. Kids don't need brand new clothing or all brand names, all the electronics, cable TV or satellite, etc, etc. If people were willing to dial back on the material items in their life, a lot more people COULD afford the needs of a child. I have known far too many mommas that are on a load of assistance that shop retail for themselves & their kids while getting diapers at the baby pantry. It makes me gag. I buy 2nd hand for almost everything (the rare exception is either when I can't find it 2nd hand & I've looked OR underwear/socks) & I have never gotten assistance or needed it in any way. I have my home paid off & cars paid off, etc. If I wanted to be an idiot, I could shop at ANY store I wanted to - but I know it's a total waste of money & that my kids will much prefer a college fund than clothing from Macy's & expensive stupid gadgets they don't need. It is no show of money to be a walking around with your EBT in $200 heels. It just looks trifling.

<blockquote><b>Quoting 10 til Gwen:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting 10 til Gwen:</b>" ... [snip!] ... and still had to work 60+ hrs a week to fill in the gaps. At least HERE I don't know how anyone can survive just on state aid."</blockquote>




No more section 8 in AZ?


Here in PA, there are lots and lots of people who do nothing to better themselves and get off of assistance.
For the most part, the people who do that usually have one person in the household that brings in some money. Usually that money is under the table or brings in a few hundred each month.