re: Rant on society

Quoting The Blissful Six:" I was a teen mom. It wasn't as common place for me because I was from a small town. I got frowned upon ... [snip!] ... sexually active are. I have and intend to continue to instill those values into my own daughters, who are now teens/pre teens."

I was a teen mom as well. Got pregnant at 16 ( I'm 34 now). I lived in a larger city, and no one looked twice at me. It wasn't a big deal at all, sadly

I think people need to stop romanticising the past... The nuclear family worked because womens rights were restricted (including a lot of jobs), things were shameful to talk about (Cancer, abuse, rape... just an example), and divorce/seperation itself was not commonplace because was frowned upon... it's conservative ideologies based off of the bible, and didn't always work the way people wanted it to... One size does not fit all, and I much prefer my multi-generational family with the option of opening up our relationship to welcome more people.

You're right. We've become too open -- But it's much better than being too closed, like it had been years ago.

I do agree with people becoming oversexualised. But hey, EVERYTHING is oversexualised -- Which is why breastfeeding in public is looked down on   .


Too be honest, I only skimmed because I'm busy with my children and this took me an hour to write up. lol

I agree with everything. I am so thankful I was raised by good role models who taught me so many important things that I will (or already started) teach my son and any future children.

i would not want to live in the 1950s and as far as young girls dressing like tramps..its not society its parents..say no if they buy stuff like that burn it..if they sneak it on burn it..i hate when people blame society when to me its the parents fault..to many parents oh no my 14 year old just had a baby but i never talked to her about being sexually active or birth control cause shes my baby girl..here are some reasons i wouldnt want to live in the 50s..

Alcoholism soared in the 1950s.

Wife-beating was not really considered a crime. Many psychologists explained that battered wives were masochists who provoked their husbands into beating them.

A husband raping his wife was not a crime at all, but a sign that the woman was deficient in fulfilling her marital obligations.

One half of the marriages that began in the 1950s ended in divorce.

During the 1950s, more than 2,000,000 legally married people lived separately.

Staying together "for the children" surpassed baseball as the national pastime.

Far from Beaver and Wally telling Ward and June carefully edited versions of their daily adventures over the dinner table, more often the evening meal was a TV dinner on a TV tray in front of the TV.

What the TV couldn't numb, tranquilizers could. A New Yorker cartoon illustrated a 1950s couple, floating down the river in a gondola, surrounded by beautiful flowers, singing birds, and playful butterflies. The husband asks the wife, "What was the name of that tranquilizer we took?" In 1958, 462,000 pounds of tranquilizers were consumed in the United States. A year later, consumption had more than tripled to 1.5 million pounds.


anytime where men think rapeing there wives is ok they can have it

<blockquote><b>Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:</b>" Totally half asleep when I wrote this but this was my rant for the day. Thoughts? http://elliebean78.blogspot.com/2013/02/downfall.html"</blockquote>




Agree with everything or almost everything you wrote.

My husband and I aren't ruddy-duddies AND we are raising our daughter with more old-fashioned values. Additionally, my neighbors are.
Our school district has a mix of people with different approaches, but there are many who share our approach. If we find that is deteriorating, our daughter will o to private school.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Kayla [ ]♥:</b>" I think people need to stop romanticising the past... The nuclear family worked because womens rights ... [snip!] ... down on   . Too be honest, I only skimmed because I'm busy with my children and this took me an hour to write up. lol"</blockquote>




I agree with so elf what you wrote BUT a lot of the reason lots of women didn't work was that society was less materialistic. We didn't need huge closets for all our stuff. People didn't rent storage space for their stuff (aka Smurf).
Kids played with one another instead of needing to be part of a league or club or on a team from the age of 4.

And, a multigenerational family doesn't mean other generations aren't in or near the household. It just means that the mommy and daddy are working together to raise their children in the same house.

Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Kayla [ ]♥:</b>" I think people need to stop romanticising ... [snip!] ... or near the household. It just means that the mommy and daddy are working together to raise their children in the same house."

A lot of women worked because they had to, you're right. But it was also urged for women stay home... My great grandma was one of those who wanted to work, but was pushed to be a stay at home mom. So were many of her friends -- She resented everything because of it.


And yes, I know what a multigenerational household means. I have lived in one most of my life up until my son was 4 months old. My grandma, my mother, myself, and my son. Grandmother lived with us because she was lonely, it was my mothers house, my son and I lived with my mom because my husband was on course with the military out of town, trying to get a house for us. I prefer it, and I have been trying to get my grandmother to move with us so I can take care of her.

You just made me miss blogging!

Well I personally would want to live in the 50's.... not everything was perfect by any means, but at least the nation had some sort of values. I believe that we are letting them completely slip away little by little.

Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" Well I personally would want to live in the 50's.... not everything was perfect by any means, but at ... [snip!] ... but at least the nation had some sort of values. I believe that we are letting them completely slip away little by little."

If you have a set way you want to raise your children, do it. It's not for me, and I wouldn't raise my children like that. But you have to remember that every generation thinks that our children, future and values are "slipping" away...

Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" The difference between Sandra Bullock and the average single woman raising their children, is that ... [snip!] ... suffer. Adult women are more likely to have stuff together and be mature enough to make the best decisions for their children."

I'm not a single parent and I have to work full time .... just because you're a couple doesn't mean that the woman automatically gives up work. Thank God because I couldn't handle being a housewife and would end up like one of those women in the 50's hiding a bottle of vodka in the linen closest.

Quoting Destiel:" I'm not a single parent and I have to work full time .... just because you're a couple doesn't mean ... [snip!] ... handle being a housewife and would end up like one of those women in the 50's hiding a bottle of vodka in the linen closest."

I have to work too... but I hate it. I cry constantly because of being away from LO

Freedoms spawn freedoms.

If we didn't want women out of the house and working or too busy to care for their children, then perhaps we should not have given them the rights they've achieved since getting the vote in 1920.

Or perhaps we shouldn't have sent women to work in factories during WWII.

Perhaps we should have stopped telling women that getting a college education should be a life goal for them.

Maybe we should have stopped empowering them and telling them that they're just as good as men, if not better.

Quoting Kayla [ ]♥:" If you have a set way you want to raise your children, do it. It's not for me, and I wouldn't raise ... [snip!] ... like that. But you have to remember that every generation thinks that our children, future and values are "slipping" away..."

If you dont see something wrong with today's society.... you should pay more attention. Rapes, murders, mass gun violence, poor education, kids with no manners, etc... that stuff wasn't prevalent as "much" before. I believe many people have actually become desensitized to a lot of it, because it happens so often. Society is smurfed up. Period. Worse than ever b efore. I don't "think" our values are slipping away. I KNOW they are.

Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" If you dont see something wrong with today's society.... you should pay more attention. Rapes, murders, ... [snip!] ... so often. Society is smurfed up. Period. Worse than ever b efore. I don't "think" our values are slipping away. I KNOW they are."

But the same thing would have been said in the 50s about girls who preferred pants and rock n roll.

Every generation has their group of people declaring that the "values" are slipping away. I'm on the cusp of the electronic generation but I know I sometimes even go "WTF happened to calling someone to tell them thank you? Or writing a letter?"

We have to adjust to our culture changes as they happen. Those that don't, can't, or won't will find the world a failing place. Common sense and manners went out of style a long time ago.