re: Starting a war over the guns being banned (D&D)

Quoting she nan igans:" Meh. I think there have always been crazy conspiracy theorists. Instead of sandwich boards on corners, ... [snip!] ... are delusional. You're couple of shotguns aren't going to do a whole lot, and I think they're a false sense of security. "

Here is the complete lists of what they are trying to ban.

Rifles: All AK types, including the following:
AK, AK47, AK47S, AK-74, AKM, AKS, ARM,
MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR-47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK-
47, VEPR, WASR-10, and WUM, IZHMASH Saiga AK, MAADI AK47 and ARM, Norinco
56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S, Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS;
All AR types, including the following:
AR-10, AR-15, Armalite M15 22LR Carbine, Armalite M15-T, Barrett REC7,
Beretta AR-70, Bushmaster ACR, Bushmaster Carbon 15, Bushmaster MOE series, Bushmaster
XM15, Colt Match Target Rifles, DoubleStar AR rifles, DPMS Tactical Rifles, Heckler & Koch
MR556, Olympic Arms, Remington R-15 rifles, Rock River Arms LAR-15, Sig Sauer SIG516
rifles, Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles, Stag Arms AR rifles, Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles;
Barrett M107A1; Barrett M82A1; Beretta CX4 Storm; Calico Liberty Series; CETME Sporter;
Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C; Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL,
LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000; Feather Industries AT-9;
Galil Model AR and Model ARM; Hi-Point Carbine; HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1 and
HK USC; Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU-16, and RFB; SIG AMT, SIG PE-57, Sig Sauer SG 550, and
Sig Sauer SG 551; Springfield Armory SAR-48; Steyr AUG; Sturm, Ruger Mini-14 Tactical
Rife M-14/20CF;
All Thompson rifles, including the following:

Thompson M1SB, Thompson
T1100D, Thompson T150D, Thompson T1B, Thompson T1B100D, Thompson T1B50D,
Thompson T1BSB, Thompson T1-C, Thompson T1D, Thompson T1SB, Thompson T5,
Thompson T5100D, Thompson TM1, Thompson TM1C; UMAREX UZI Rifle; UZI Mini
Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine; Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78;
Vector Arms UZI Type; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.
Pistols: All AK-47 types, including the following:
Centurion 39 AK pistol, Draco AK-47 pistol,
HCR AK-47 pistol, IO Inc. Hellpup AK-47 pistol, Krinkov pistol, Mini Draco AK-47 pistol,
Yugo Krebs Krink pistol;
All AR-15 types, including the following: American Spirit AR-15
pistol, Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol, DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol, DPMS AR-15 pistol,
Olympic Arms AR-15 pistol, Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol; Calico Liberty pistols; DSA
SA58 PKP FAL pistol; Encom MP-9 and MP-45; Heckler & Koch model SP-89 pistol; Intratec
AB-10, TEC-22 Scorpion, TEC-9, and TEC-DC9; Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol;
The following MAC types: MAC-10, MAC-11; Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA
Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol; Military Armament Corp. Ingram M-11, Velocity
Arms VMAC; Sig Sauer P556 pistol; Sites Spectre;
All Thompson types, including the following:
Thompson TA510D, Thompson TA5; All UZI types, including: Micro-UZI.
Shotguns: Franchi LAW-12 and SPAS 12; All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the
following: IZHMASH Saiga 12, IZHMASH Saiga 12S, IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP-01,
IZHMASH Saiga 12K, IZHMASH Saiga 12K-030, IZHMASH Saiga 12K-040 Taktika;
Streetsweeper; Striker 12.
Belt-fed semiautomatic firearms: All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms including TNW M2HB.

ANY gun ban is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. ANY. Gun rights are NOT so we can "hunt".

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" Obama has already committed plenty of impeachable offenses, gun ban aside."

Really?

what?

...and OP, yep, people are willing to die for their freedom. I totally see it coming.

i dont know what to think but something is fkn going on everytime we go to walmart we check out the amo and theres like nothing. we are big on guns we have many, SO also has his own reloading table. if smurf goes down we are good for a while and friends & family will come to us (they even told us)

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" Obama has already committed plenty of impeachable offenses, gun ban aside."

Humor me, hon.
Don't worry, I'll wait. I have aaaaaallllllllllll day.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" ANY gun ban is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. ANY. Gun rights are NOT so we can "hunt"."

Give me five practical uses for an automatic weapon.
Again, don't worry. I'll be waiting.

Quoting ☠BryBry's MuM☠:" i dont know what to think but something is fkn going on everytime we go to walmart we check out the amo ... [snip!] ... his own reloading table. if smurf goes down we are good for a while and friends & family will come to us (they even told us)"

Walmart prides itself on being a "family store"

It's pretty obvious why they are not stocking mass amounts of ammo.

Quoting .Colleen.:" Walmart prides itself on being a "family store" It's pretty obvious why they are not stocking mass amounts of ammo."

haha the past few months its been like this. they had always had it stocked.

Quoting ☠BryBry's MuM☠:" i dont know what to think but something is fkn going on everytime we go to walmart we check out the amo ... [snip!] ... his own reloading table. if smurf goes down we are good for a while and friends & family will come to us (they even told us)"

I'm honestly curious.

Why do you think you're good for a while?

I mean, if you have weapons and it's well known, then wouldn't that be the FIRST place the police/military go if they're trying to oppress us? They'd hit the dissenters with weapons. And especially in that case, do you honestly think that your guns, with the people you have to use them, stand ANY chance against a well funded and armed military force?

We won the revolution because the level of weaponry was close to the same, and because a militia fighting a "foreign" based force is different then fighting on their soil.

I'm not being rude, I really am curious. I have friends who think the way you do and I honestly don't understand the logic.

Quoting .Colleen.:" Really? what?"

Obama violated the War Powers Act of 1973 by conducting a war against Libya without Congressional authorization.

Obama gave missile codes to British Trident missiles to Russia.


Obama allowed the bailouts to grant money without the authority to do so. “No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law.” Article 1, Section 9, Clause 7U.S.Constitution.


Obama bypassed the Senate with many of his appointments of over 30 “czars.”


Obama bypassed the Senate with a recess appointment of Donald Berwick as the head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Violates policy.


Obama violated the Constitution by firing the GM CEO.


Obama has failed to defend US soil in Arizona as Mexican troops bring illegals and drugs into the USA, crossing the border doing so. This is a direct violation of Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution.

Obama had provided under the radar amnesty to illegal immigrants by allowing ICE Director John Morton to prohibit ICE officers from enforcing US immigration laws.



All of those (and there are TONS more) violate this:

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Quoting ☠BryBry's MuM☠:" haha the past few months its been like this. they had always had it stocked."

They went on back order originally because of the Mayan Prophecy. Now with the new gun restrictions they just can't catch up.

Quoting Rabbit™:" Give me five practical uses for an automatic weapon. Again, don't worry. I'll be waiting."

There is only ONE practical use that I can think of and that is tyranny.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" There is only ONE practical use that I can think of and that is tyranny."

That's not a practical use.
Take the tin foil off your head for christ's sake.
The anti-Obama propaganda is worse than the anti-Bush. People are desperately grasping at broken straws in an effort to blame this all on one person. Have you no real understanding of how our government even works?

I'm going to just go ahead and assume that you're one of the nutters that likens Obama to Hitler.

Quoting Rabbit™:" That's not a practical use. Take the tin foil off your head for christ's sake. The anti-Obama propaganda ... [snip!] ... our government even works? I'm going to just go ahead and assume that you're one of the nutters that likens Obama to Hitler. "

You can assume anything you'd like. You are patronizing.

Hon.

EDIT. YOU don't think it's a practical use. I do. It's what is was put in place for...but no, you're right, our government is so trustworthy I just don't know what the hell I'm thinking!?

Obama does PLENTY, all on his own, no approval needed from anyone. That's NOT the way your government was set up to work.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" Obama violated the War Powers Act of 1973 by conducting a war against Libya without Congressional authorization. ... [snip!] ... of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” "

You realize that many past presidents have "violated" some of these same "terms"? And not just Dems.