re: Pink

Quoting Danielle: Jack&Basil'sMom:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Lizplustwo:</b>" The point isn't money, but you can't really ... [snip!] ... There's a mental obstacle to overcome for some. But I mean, since breastfeeding is free, smurf all that, just do it.  "

Sounds like the best way to overcome a mental obstacle to me.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Lizplustwo:</b>" I was referring more to the carseat and safety items, obviously. I'm honestly not sure what your problem ... [snip!] ... IDGAF if you agree or if you chose to breastfeed or whatever. There's really no need to be so sarcastic and condescending. "</blockquote>




Why not respond to the baby food comment?

I didn't make baby food because I didn't feel like it.

Shame on me  

But I did/am breastfeeding, so all is forgiven!  

<blockquote><b>Quoting Lizplustwo:</b>" Sounds like the best way to overcome a mental obstacle to me."</blockquote>




Or the best way to exacerbate an underlying problem

Quoting Danielle: Jack&Basil'sMom:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Lizplustwo:</b>" I was referring more to the carseat and safety ... [snip!] ... I didn't make baby food because I didn't feel like it. Shame on me   But I did/am breastfeeding, so all is forgiven!  "

DH and I will be making our own baby food. Sure, it's a good thing to do.

You're putting words in my mouth and trying to make it out like I'm being a hell of a lot more pushy than I actually am, lol. I just calmly stated an opinion, once, directed towards someone who will probably never read this. There's a lot of things I think all parents should do, that doesn't mean I think they're bad parents for choosing to do things differently. Being a good parent depends on many different factors; I don't think breastfeeding alone makes one a good mother, nor did I say that. YOU did. So I'm not really sure what you're trying to argue.

I said breastfeeding alone makes someone a good mother??

Quoting Danielle: Jack&Basil'sMom:" I said breastfeeding alone makes someone a good mother??"

No, you seemed to be implying that I think that way, with your sarcastic, "I am breastfeeding, so all is forgiven" comment. I definitely don't think that way and never indicated that I do.

You're trying to create an argument where there is none.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Lizplustwo:</b>" No, you seemed to be implying that I think that way, with your sarcastic, "I am breastfeeding, so all ... [snip!] ... I definitely don't think that way and never indicated that I do. You're trying to create an argument where there is none. "</blockquote>



Sarcastic AND hyperbolic!

And I don't understand ... how do you not care if someone breastfeeds or tries to breastfeed, yet bother to have an opinion about the matter?

Easy. It doesn't really take an effort to form an opinion...Breastfeeding is good, you should do it. Simple.

Doesn't mean I think less of you if you choose not to. Am I still going to think you should? Yes, of course.

Quoting Danielle: Jack&Basil'sMom:" <blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" I totally would try it if you told me ... [snip!] ... say it was good for the baby   I think it's ignorant to expect every mother to give breastfeeding "a shot" That's all."

I know you didn't say it was good for the baby. My point is, what I do for me & what I am willing to do for my kids are two different things & I would hope most moms are like that. I can also promise you there is o one single food as an adult you must eat in order to get specific nutrients, there are options. There are no options like breastmilk - it's either breastmilk or it's manufactured food that is completely different. The "issue" with nursing is that formula feeding has risks & denies the baby protection that biologically the baby's body is expecting to receive. So you can't compare what I would eat for my OWN health & what I would do for the health of my kids. We are designed, by nature or God, reliant on the antibodies & such mother's milk offers. We aren't born with mature immune systems, far from it.

I don't expect every mom will give breastfeeding a try, but I do think they should. It is NO different than thinking they should try to offer the best they can in any other way or category. One of my dearest friends does not BF & has never tried it. It isn't an issue between us & I know she's a good mom. She has made a poor health decision for herself & her kids, but it is what it is. I truly wish she would have at least tried it - she has twice the breast cancer risk now than what she could have had if she would have nursed, her child has 7x the risk for childhood cancer, I could go on & on listing all the things that are found in higher rates among moms who have never nursed & their offspring. The point is, why should I not think all moms should give it a shot IF in fact it actually DOES change statistical health outcomes so greatly? EVEN when confounding factors are removed such as age of mother, eduction, socioeconomic factors...the numbers remain significantly different. Where do you draw the line? Should I not think moms shouldn't smoke around kids, or that they should use carseats, etc? If you know one has much higher risk factors than the other, shouldn't you try the safest one first? If you can't, then you can't & that happens...but if you don't even try, how can you say whether or not you could? And no - this isn't about forcing anyone to do anything. I think you should brush your teeth too but I am not going to come over for random floss checks either. This is simply about the intellectual discussion of what one "should" do....and in this case, I think that trying is at least worth the shot. The worst that can happen is you end up using formula & if that was your plan in the first place, it's not much of a loss that I can see.

Quoting Danielle: Jack&Basil'sMom:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Amber :]:</b>" It's a matter of not trying your hardest for ... [snip!] ... get the very best carseat, homemake baby food and home safety devices are as shoddy as moms who don't attempt breastfeeding?"

I can answer this - because I don't give in to knee jerk reactions I have. Seriously. I do things like think about the big picture...logically. If I can find no justification for it, I push past it. I hate boogers & ear wax too - can I opt out of it if it skeeves me out, or "should" I clean their ears & noses? Do I have to?

And yes I do feel totally at peace to say women should try. I have a sister with advanced breast cancer right now. She thought I was a bit too stubborn when I hit roadblocks with nursing & pushed through & she thought I made too big of a deal about breastfeeding & making it work. I tired to tell her at the time all the health related stuff associated with it for children & for mom. She now tells me how sorry she is for not being supportive sooner & how glad she is that I did push through because it puts me at significantly less risk than she was. She has also become a huge supporter of breastfeeding, as she now knows it is the best defense we have as women against it. I am sorry if it offends you or anyone else that I think having my breast removed would be far more skeevy & painful than anything nursing entails. If I have ANY chance that it helps me or any other mother avoid ending up there, I will continue to say that we SHOULD do it - for the health of babies AND mothers. It is a FACT that it reduces your risk & with odds being 1 in 8, I'll take any reduction of risk I can get gladly. It also reduces the risk for any female child you nurse. So if women can't push past the ick factor for their children, I wish they'd at least think about the breast cancer risk before deciding if they might be able to give it a shot....and I am beyond serious on that.

IMO, the issue with the article is not BFing vs. formula feeding, it's publicly breastfeeding.

And, honestly, I think the writer of the blog was out of line to criticize someone because they chose to share a damn picture of a baby eating (especially, as everyone pointed out, she shared a picture of her baby eating, the way that she chose to feed her baby).

That's what I got from it. And, yes, I felt that the writer of the blog article was being a little judgemental towards BFing. But the main point I got was "ugh, she shouldn't share that picture because she's breastfeeding and I don't want to look at it because I chose formula feeding".

Quoting The Doctor:" IMO, the issue with the article is not BFing vs. formula feeding, it's publicly breastfeeding. And, ... [snip!] ... she shouldn't share that picture because she's breastfeeding and I don't want to look at it because I chose formula feeding"."

 

This. I was just making an offhand comment about breastfeeding in general after the previous poster pointed out something the author said in her blog. IMO, it got blown way out of proportion.

Quoting Lizplustwo:"   This. I was just making an offhand comment about breastfeeding in general after the previous poster pointed out something the author said in her blog. IMO, it got blown way out of proportion."

Absolutely.