re: Isn't she hurting her baby?

Quoting Viv, Ev & Gwen ♥:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Trixie7678:</b>" It sounds like you care about her baby because ... [snip!] ... and her children. ... [snip!] ... "</blockquote> Dark hops alcohol has been proven to increase milk supply."

Its like conter intuitive though. So the hopps makes your milk supply increase but the alcohol dehydrates you and then decreases your milk supply so the two are just working against each other. Maybe if you could just consume the hopps and not the alcoholic part.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Trixie7678:</b>" Its like conter intuitive though. So the hopps makes your milk supply increase but the alcohol dehydrates ... [snip!] ... supply so the two are just working against each other. Maybe if you could just consume the hopps and not the alcoholic part."</blockquote>




Alcohol doesn't dehydrate you to the point where it would decrease your supply after two beers. Which is all you need to get the boost from the dark hops.

Quoting Viv, Ev & Gwen ♥:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Trixie7678:</b>" Its like conter intuitive though. So the hopps ... [snip!] ... to the point where it would decrease your supply after two beers. Which is all you need to get the boost from the dark hops."

Thomas W. Hale, R.Ph. Ph.D., member of the LLLI Health Advisory Council, says this in his book Medications and Mothers' Milk (12th ed.):
Significant amounts of alcohol are secreted into breastmilk although it is not considered harmful to the infant if the amount and duration are limited. The absolute amount of alcohol transferred into milk is generally low. Beer, but not ethanol, has been reported in a number of studies to stimulate prolactin levels and breastmilk production (1, 2, 3). Thus it is presumed that the polysaccharide from barley may be the prolactin-stimulating component of beer (4). Non-alcoholic beer is equally effective.
In a study of twelve breastfeeding mothers who ingested 0.3 g/kg of ethanol in orange juice (equivalent to 1 can of beer for the average-sized woman), the mean maximum concentration of ethanol in milk was 320 mg/L (5). This report suggests a 23% reduction (156 to 120 mL) in breastmilk production following ingestion of beer and an increase in milk odor as a function of ethanol content.



https://www.llli.org/faq/alcohol.html

Here is a study that suggests 23% decrease from consuming the equivilent of one beer.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Trixie7678:</b>" Thomas W. Hale, R.Ph. Ph.D., member of the LLLI Health Advisory Council, says this in his book Medications ... [snip!] ... https://www.llli.org/faq/alcohol.html Here is a study that suggests 23% decrease from consuming the equivilent of one beer. "</blockquote>



/dark hops/ beer?

Quoting Viv, Ev & Gwen ♥:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Trixie7678:</b>" Thomas W. Hale, R.Ph. Ph.D., member of the ... [snip!] ... is a study that suggests 23% decrease from consuming the equivilent of one beer. "</blockquote> /dark hops/ beer?"

They didnt use beer they used the ethanol to study the effects of alcohol in BM. So the point I wanted to make was that just one or two beers can decrease your supply which is what you suggested in your other comment. We can call a tie though in this great alcohol/hops debate though...I cant really find any studies for or against hopps...  

Quoting Viv, Ev & Gwen ♥:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Trixie7678:</b>" Its like conter intuitive though. So the hopps ... [snip!] ... to the point where it would decrease your supply after two beers. Which is all you need to get the boost from the dark hops."

Maybe non alcoholic dark hopps would be the most surefire way to go to boost supply...

well she has decided she doesn't need me telling her how to live her life and she has made the decision to stop being my friend. she said she can find someone else to watch her kids. I'm starting to feel she was just looking for a babysitter when her mother can't watch her kid and that hurt because i thought i actually had a friend. ugh