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Tipping at restaurants D&D

posted 1st Feb
A girl I used to waitress with in college posted this to facebook. I know how I stand, and I was wondering how the mamas of BG stand as well.

My feelings: She definitely should not have put the costumer's name, or last 4 digits of their CC (I thought it was common sense not to put someone else's personal info online when you don't have their permission  ). I don't know quite how I feel about her being fired, but I know for sure how I feel about not tipping. As long as your server did nothing wrong, you should tip. If you can't afford to tip, you shouldn't be going out to eat.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/01/fired-applebees-waitress-needs-tips


I was a waitress at Applebee's restaurant in Saint Louis. I was fired Wednesday for posting a picture on Reddit.com of a note a customer left on a bill. I posted it on the web as a light-hearted joke.
This didn't even happen at my table. The note was left for another server, who allowed me to take a picture of it at the end of the night.

Someone had scribbled on the receipt, "I give God 10%. Why do you get 18?"

I assumed the customer's signature was illegible, but I quickly started receiving messages containing Facebook profile links and websites, asking me to confirm the identity of the customer. I refused to confirm any of them, and all were incorrect.
I worked with the Reddit moderators to remove any personal information. I wanted to protect the identity of both my fellow server and the customer. I had no intention of starting a witch-hunt or hurting anyone.
Now I've been fired.
The person who wrote the note came across an article about it, called the Applebee's location, and demanded everyone be fired -- me, the server who allowed me to take the picture, the manager on duty at the time, the manager not on duty at the time, everyone. It seems I was fired not because Applebee's was represented poorly, not because I did anything illegal or against company policy, but because I embarrassed this person.
In light of the situation, I would like to make a statement on behalf of wait staff everywhere: We make $3.50 an hour. Most of my paychecks are less than pocket change because I have to pay taxes on the tips I make.
After sharing my tips with hosts, bussers, and bartenders, I make less than $9 an hour on average, before taxes. I am expected to skip bathroom breaks if we are busy. I go hungry all day if I have several busy tables to work. I am expected to work until 1:30am and then come in again at 10:30am to open the restaurant.
I have worked 12-hour double shifts without a chance to even sit down. I am expected to portray a canned personality that has been found to be least offensive to the greatest amount of people. And I am expected to do all of this, every day, and receive change, or even nothing, in return. After all that, I can be fired for "embarrassing" someone, who directly insults his or her server on religious grounds.
In this economy, $3.50 an hour doesn't cut it. I can't pay half my bills. Like many, I would love to see a reasonable, non-tip-dependent wage system for service workers like they have in other countries. But the system being flawed is not an excuse for not paying for services rendered.
I need tips to pay my bills. All waiters do. We spend an hour or more of our time befriending you, making you laugh, getting to know you, and making your dining experience the best it can be. We work hard. We care. We deserve to be paid for that.

I am trying to stand up for all of us who work for just a few dollars an hour at places like Applebee's. Whether a chain steakhouse or a black-tie establishment, tipping is not optional. It is how we get paid.

I posted a picture to make people laugh, but now I want to make a serious point: Things like this happen to servers all the time. People seem to think that the easiest way to save money on a night out is to skip the tip.
I can't understand why I was fired over this. I was well liked and respected at Applebee's. My sales were high, my managers had no problems with me, and I was even hoping to move up to management soon. When I posted this, I didn't represent Applebee's in a bad light. In fact, I didn't represent them at all.
I did my best to protect the identity of all parties involved. I didn't break any specific guidelines in the company handbook – I checked. But because this person got embarrassed that their selfishness was made public, Applebee's has made it clear that they would rather lose a dedicated employee than an angry customer. That's a policy I can't understand.
I am equally baffled about how a religious tithe is in any way related to paying for services at a restaurant. I can understand why someone could be upset with an automatic gratuity. However, it's a plainly stated Applebee's policy that a tip is added automatically for parties over eight like the one this customer was part of. I cannot control that kind of tip; it's done by the computer that the orders are put into. I've been stiffed on tips before, but this is the first time I've seen the "Big Man" used as reasoning.
Obviously the person who wrote this note wanted it seen by someone. It's strange that now that the audience is wider than just the server, the person is ashamed.
I have no agenda here. I seek no revenge against the note writer. I have no interest in exposing their identity, and, at this point, I'm not even sure I want my job back. I was just trying to make a joke, but I came home unemployed.
I've been waiting tables to save up some money so I could finally go to college, so I could get an education that would qualify me for a job that doesn't force me to sell my personality for pocket change.
While this story has garnered immense media attention, my story is not uncommon. Bad tips and harsh notes are all part of the job. People get fired to keep customers happy every day.
As this story has gotten popular, I've received inquiries as to where people can send money to support me. As a broke kid trying to get into college, it's certainly appealing, but I'd really rather you make a difference to your next server. I'd rather you keep that money and that generosity for the next time you eat out.

ETA: Here is the picture of the receipt. The name isn't shown, but I assume that the entire receipt was shown in her original picture, which would have included the last 4 digits of CC, and the customer's signature:

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I have 1 child & live in Delaware
posted 1st Feb
I think that Pastor showed a pathetic display of God's love. I feel terrible for that waitress.
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Indiana
posted 1st Feb
If it had the customers name and last four digits of their credit card I agree with her being fired.
I personally always tip but sometimes the service is not always the best. If you're going to have a bitchy attitude I won't tip much at all but on the other hand if you're a great server I've given an 80% tip on several occasions.
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I have 1 child & 3 angel babies & live in Vancouver, British Columbia
posted 1st Feb
I feel bad for the waitress but agree that she should have been fired for posting a customers personal info online..even if they did leave a bad tip.
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I'm due November 3rd, have 1 child & live in Holland, Michigan
posted 1st Feb
I don't know why someone would write that... it's pretty common knowledge that waitresses don't make much and that tips make up their income. Pretty sad IMO.
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I have 2 kids & live in West Virginia
posted 1st Feb
I feel bad for the waitress honestly, if you're not going to tip don't eat out IMO. Should she have posted his personal info? No.
Still feel bad for her. I'm glad she takes responsibility though.
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I have 1 child & live in New York, New York
posted 1st Feb
He could give God more than 10 %   should have told him that
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I live in Turkey
posted 1st Feb
Quoting sassy chef:" I think that Pastor showed a pathetic display of God's love. I feel terrible for that waitress. "




   
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I have 1 child & live in New York, New York
posted 1st Feb
Quoting Regina George ♡:" I feel bad for the waitress honestly, if you're not going to tip don't eat out IMO. Should she have posted his personal info? No. Still feel bad for her. I'm glad she takes responsibility though. "

Me too, and I thought it was really mature that she declined the offer to be sent money by the readers as well.
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I have 1 child & live in Delaware
posted 1st Feb
It's bullsmurf because the waitress who actually got it, was not the one to upload it. Another waitress did when she was shown it, and SHE uploaded it. But the one who got stiffed and did nothing is the one who got fired.

The "pastor" was being a total bitch. Period. She deserved the karma she got for what she did.

I always tip 15% or more, I know what waitresses make and what kind of horrible smurf they go through.
quotesmurfs?
posted 1st Feb
Where does it show the last 4 #s?
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I have 2 kids & live in Colorado
posted 1st Feb
Quoting MommyToWesley:" Me too, and I thought it was really mature that she declined the offer to be sent money by the readers as well."


Hopefully she finds another job  
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I have 1 child & live in New York, New York
posted 1st Feb
Quoting Nathaniel'sMom:" If it had the customers name and last four digits of their credit card I agree with her being fired. ... [snip!] ... attitude I won't tip much at all but on the other hand if you're a great server I've given an 80% tip on several occasions."


I don't know, because to me, it looks like she didn't realize that stuff was on there until people started showing her facebook profiles and personal information from the 'pastor', then she went through a lot of efforts to keep the identity concealed. I don't think she should have been fired. I hope she finds a new job!
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I have 2 kids & live in Ohio
posted 1st Feb
I posted about that picture yesterday or the day before, but a waitress got fired for that? what the hell? I don't think it warrants being fired at all. It's not her fault the guy wrote something smurffy because he's a cheap ass. He sounds even more idiotic now that he called and demanded "everyone be fired." How childish  
quotesmurfs?
I have 1 child & live in Michigan
posted 1st Feb
<blockquote><b>Quoting BakingBean2:</b>" I don't know, because to me, it looks like she didn't realize that stuff was on there until people ... [snip!] ... through a lot of efforts to keep the identity concealed. I don't think she should have been fired. I hope she finds a new job! "</blockquote>




"This didn't even happen at my table. The note was left for another server, who allowed me to take a picture of it at the end of the night"
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I have 1 child & 3 angel babies & live in Vancouver, British Columbia
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