re: Should the United States be stopping this??

<blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" Based on our past performances, I'd say it's a safer bet ATM. Could you tell me exactly when we intervened ... [snip!] ... would, in fact, sink that boat if it sailed)? Just wondering what humanitarian war efforts you feel we've been involved in."</blockquote>



I don't really think that we HAVE been involved in "humanitarian wars". I feel like we start and actively participate in other wars, but none of the humanitarian variety.

Which brings me full circle.

I am of a Libertarian mindset and feel wars are started or participated in, by us, for power/money. I see us in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya...for what? Yet, I see REAL atrocities happening all over the world and we are silent.

It doesn't make a lick of sense.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" Based on our past performances, I'd say ... [snip!] ... Libya...for what? Yet, I see REAL atrocities happening all over the world and we are silent. It doesn't make a lick of sense."

A lot of what we do makes perfect sense from a Capitalist standpoint. We interfere when there is money to be gained or lost - seldom when it deals with human life. Human life, or quality of life has very little to do with a Capitalist system. And WWI & WWII were extremely profitable for us, especially after we bombed all other manufacturing back to the stone ages & had no real competition in the market for quite a while.

I don't like to see any suffering. heck I made post last night upset that my local grocery store has betta fish in an inch of water & how inhumane that is. The fact is, at any given point in time, there are in fact atrocities going on everywhere. What I find MORE bothersome than our government deciding not to get involved with various issues is our MEDIA deciding what is & isn't news before we ever know what is going on & the purposeful dumbing down of the US population through repeating smurf like which celeb is pregnant/divorcing, etc & acting as if that is news & then skipping over major world events. I can only think there is a reason they don't report it & it's likely that they are being influenced not to - because as human beings, if Americans realized what was going on, they'd perhaps want something done. As long as they are kept pretty happily ignorant, then they are completely appeased to watch more Jersey Shore.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" There is a difference between trying to convert and BURNING PEOPLE ALIVE because they won't. As far ... [snip!] ... Islam is the only religion in the world where radical members carry out mass genocide because their religion tells them to."

Wow....you clearly need to pick up a textbook because your knowledge of history must be seriously lacking in order for you to have made such an ignorant statement.

But that is no surprise, coming from you.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" The point is being missed. Replace "Muslims" with "white people" and then replace "catholics" with "black ... [snip!] ... so did it too". Take religion out of the equation for a second. Think OUTSIDE of WHO the article is pointing the finger at."

Yeah, and guess what? Not too long ago, white Christians used religion as an excuse to enslave, rape, and kill millions of blacks from West Africa and even in my MOTHER'S time, white "Christians" were burning crosses and lynching blacks, citing religion as their justification for such crimes.

Your ignorance is showing. You should be ashamed of yourself for being so hateful.

And some of you are forgetting that not too long ago, America funded Osama Bin Latin against Russia in Afghanistan during the cold war!

Quoting Back to Noob Status:" Wow....you clearly need to pick up a textbook because your knowledge of history must be seriously lacking ... [snip!] ... must be seriously lacking in order for you to have made such an ignorant statement. But that is no surprise, coming from you."

Links?

Quoting Back to Noob Status:" Yeah, and guess what? Not too long ago, white Christians used religion as an excuse to enslave, rape, ... [snip!] ... as their justification for such crimes. Your ignorance is showing. You should be ashamed of yourself for being so hateful."

Do you have any links to stories of MASS MURDERS, currently happening, committed by Christians?

I'm against lynching anyone on the basis of religion/color.ethnicity/skin color and the like.

Quoting Back to Noob Status:" And some of you are forgetting that not too long ago, America funded Osama Bin Latin against Russia in Afghanistan during the cold war! "

That was religiously motivated? I thought it was about money and power and what benefitted us at the time.

Okay Julie - can you please help m out here...are you in fact totally obsessed that the homicides have to be religiously motivated or are we not. You seem to keep flip flopping on that so much I have whiplash here.

<blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" Okay Julie - can you please help m out here...are you in fact totally obsessed that the homicides have ... [snip!] ... have to be religiously motivated or are we not. You seem to keep flip flopping on that so much I have whiplash here. "</blockquote>



I know, she says the point of the article was not about religion just to speak about US involvement...yet can't wrap her head around the fact that christians have committed the most genocides through out history.


Julie, look up the Congo (recent/going on)Lord's resistance Army, they are christian. Or check out the genocide in Rwanda(recent). They were christian. In fact it was the preists themselves chopping children women and old men to bits. You still ignore the genocide we brought up in Bosnia, also by christians(also recent and still being dealt with). The holocaust included many many christians doing horrible things. I could go on but you are blinded by your own arrogance and ignorance to admit or see any of this. It's obvious you cannot tell the difference between religion, culture, and politics. Even more outstanding is your absolute ignorance on Islam.

<blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" You may nto have thought he was, but he certainly represented himself as such. "I believe that I am ... [snip!] ... in the way, that was long after he already decided to decimate the Jews & everyone else he determined to be undesirable."</blockquote>




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<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" Do you have any links to stories of MASS MURDERS, currently happening, committed by Christians? I'm against lynching anyone on the basis of religion/color.ethnicity/skin color and the like. "</blockquote>




In your original story, it was about Smurfia. They have been killing each other over there. It wasn't JUST the Muslims killing Christians. Not only that, but this particular story was false. Those are bodies from a gas explosion, not a mass killing.

Quoting justanothamotha:" Okay Julie - can you please help m out here...are you in fact totally obsessed that the homicides have ... [snip!] ... have to be religiously motivated or are we not. You seem to keep flip flopping on that so much I have whiplash here. "

There is two things here.

1) IF the mass murdering going on had nothing at all to do with religion, would there be any impulse, at all, for the United States to step in and help? A resounding "no" has permeated this thread. Okay.

2) Comparing religious atrocities was brought up by another poster. Actually, a couple of posters. I addressed it because it was brought up, not because I wanted the focus to be "who's killed more people".

Also, we live in the HERE and NOW. Hitler was a meniacal monster, yes...and many want to believe that he was Christian...fine. However, currently, I see no evidence that religiously motivated mass killings are being done by Christians.

I definitely have thoughts about the Inquisitions but I'm not going to talk about things of the past, that I cannot change. CURRENTLY, there is ethnic cleansing and mass killings going on every.single.day. Everyone just shrugging and saying "oh well" is surprising to me. I would have figured that human rights would be very important to this particular crowd. Guess I was wrong.

Quoting ~Ice Princess~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" Do you have any links to stories of ... [snip!] ... Christians. Not only that, but this particular story was false. Those are bodies from a gas explosion, not a mass killing."

The fact that the story wasn't straight has already been established and I asked a completely different hypothetical to evoke the answers I was seeking.

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" There is two things here. 1) IF the mass murdering going on had nothing at all to do with religion, ... [snip!] ... surprising to me. I would have figured that human rights would be very important to this particular crowd. Guess I was wrong."</blockquote>




I haven't seen anyone say Owell. I don't understand how people can do such things but there's not much we can do. No matter what, they'll keep doing it. Whether its now or in 50 years.