re: Illegal Immigrants

You missed it...Im posting too much personal info, lol.

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting kate & tilly:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie ... [snip!] ... would be okay with you? Illegal immigrants aren't the ones who have fought and died for this country. Poor, poor argument."</blockquote>




I'm not saying anything about anyone taking our country by force. If people have been taking other people's land this way since beginning of time then you admit that is exactly what we did. Which was my point. Illegal immigration is a problem but we need to overhaul our immigration system. It needs to be easier for law abiding normal working citizens of other countries to immigrate here. My family fought and died for this country too. Am I proud? Yes. Who wouldn't be? But do I feel the need to deny others that want the same opportunities that I have here? Absolutely not. Do I want illegal immigrants here? No. I realize we do get a lot of criminals coming here as well. This is why the system needs to change. So that when someone is here illegally no one wants to help them.

I am very torn on this issue. I used to be completely against it, but now I know a few people that are undocumented and the horror stories they tell me about living in Mexico make me feel for them. Honestly, the majority of them wouldn't even make enough to pay taxes if they were citizens. They'd actually be able to get a much easier ride. These cartels are knocking on our door, and they're really the only ones that can afford the cost of becoming a citizen.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Layla-and-Faith:</b>" Black, White, Purple, Blue.. from Canada, USA, China, Mexico.. I don't care, who they are or where they are from.. No one should be entitled to a free ride."</blockquote>




Free ride? Are you aware that it's around $10,000 or probably even more to cross the border? And if it's not paid by the time they've crossed, the coyote holds them hostage?

Quoting MyPurrrtyBabies:" Its F***ING insane! Thousands of dollars just for a tiny piece of paper that "allows" you to be here. ... [snip!] ... you to be here. I REALLY do believe that if the legalizing process was much more affordable, there weren't be many illegals."

Exactly!! How do they expect people who make 20 dollars a week to afford that? It is smurfing ridiculous.

Quoting Layla-and-Faith:" Black, White, Purple, Blue.. from Canada, USA, China, Mexico.. I don't care, who they are or where they are from.. No one should be entitled to a free ride."

No one ever said it should be a free ride...it should be made affordable for those who are struggling in their countries to make it & want to do better for their families over here in the US. I see nothing wrong with that.

Quoting Bangtail:" I am very torn on this issue. I used to be completely against it, but now I know a few people that are ... [snip!] ... ride. These cartels are knocking on our door, and they're really the only ones that can afford the cost of becoming a citizen."

Mexico is not safe in MANY places, and it is VERY poor. If you could only see the way people live over there, you would truly understand why they come here....I have seen "houses" made of of scrap metal from a junk yard & people LIVE in them, could you imagine? I mean the front of someones house had a old garage door on it.

Quoting *La Mom De Nathan*:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Layla-and-Faith:</b>" Black, White, Purple, Blue.. from Canada, ... [snip!] ... or probably even more to cross the border? And if it's not paid by the time they've crossed, the coyote holds them hostage?"

That's what i'm saying  

Quoting ❥ Meℓi:" Mexico is not safe in MANY places, and it is VERY poor. If you could only see the way people live over ... [snip!] ... from a junk yard & people LIVE in them, could you imagine? I mean the front of someones house had a old garage door on it."

I went there a year and a half ago to see/visit/meet my inlaws for 2 whole months....all I can say is, I COMPLETELY understand why they come here. Took me 3 hours to wash my and my childrens clothes by hand on a concrete washboard and the hot sun beating down on my back, takes even longer depending on how many peoples clothes are being washed and when I was there I washed just mine and my 2 daughters and it took forever it felt. Pure misery. Everyones clothes are raggedy because of the harshness on the washboard, it wears the material 10x as fast as it would it were to being washed in a washing machine. The list goes on and on and on....

Quoting ❥ Meℓi:" No one ever said it should be a free ride...it should be made affordable for those who are struggling ... [snip!] ... in their countries to make it & want to do better for their families over here in the US. I see nothing wrong with that."

Exactly.

<blockquote><b>Quoting (*Melly*):</b>" I know Im a little late to the discussion. Getting a passport and visa (a document needed to get into ... [snip!] ... processes to get a green card and that takes years and its very expensive. Some people just get ripped off and get deported."</blockquote>


Exactly but a lot of people seem to think that's its a piece of cake to come here legally.

Quoting Heeeeeey, Sexy lady. ;):" <blockquote><b>Quoting (*Melly*):</b>" I know Im a little late to the discussion. ... [snip!] ... get deported."</blockquote> Exactly but a lot of people seem to think that's its a piece of cake to come here legally."

They REALLY do.

Yep going through all the stress and exhausting process that takes FOREVER while having paying thousands AND thousands of dollars... yep, ... piece'o cake!

Quoting Heeeeeey, Sexy lady. ;):" <blockquote><b>Quoting (*Melly*):</b>" I know Im a little late to the discussion. ... [snip!] ... get deported."</blockquote> Exactly but a lot of people seem to think that's its a piece of cake to come here legally."

Its sad...I know some people that paid thousands of dollars, over 6k to an immigration attorney or whatever they´re called and they just got ripped off. They never submitted their paperwork and ended up getting them deported instead.

<blockquote><b>Quoting (*Melly*):</b>" Its sad...I know some people that paid thousands of dollars, over 6k to an immigration attorney or whatever ... [snip!] ... they´re called and they just got ripped off. They never submitted their paperwork and ended up getting them deported instead."</blockquote>




This has happened in my family

Quoting *La Mom De Nathan*:" <blockquote><b>Quoting (*Melly*):</b>" Its sad...I know some people that paid thousands ... [snip!] ... submitted their paperwork and ended up getting them deported instead."</blockquote> This has happened in my family"

Yeah its happened to A LOT of people and that's why so many are scared to even try, nobody has thousands of dollars to pay just to end up getting robbed and scammed.

People really have NO idea...