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posted 29th Jan
Quoting Layla-and-Faith:" Lets take Amanda Todd for example.. SHE made the choice to put her breasts on the internet, no one ... [snip!] ... Hell no, they didn't pull the trigger, they didn't plan the kill.. the other person did and should be the only one to pay."


I think Amanda Todd's case is a little out of the norm. The majority of kids I went to school with who were horribly bullied weren't posting nudes online (not that it makes it her fault that other kids decided to be cruel). They were just kids who people found "weird" for some reason or another, and decided to be cruel to.

And though we're talking about suicides, and not a killing spree, I will say that I don't think anyone who bullies should feel less guilty if the person decides to do something heinous. Yes, no one made the decision to shoot up a school or murder but the kid who was bullied, but I think someone has got to be a real ass hat if they know for a fact that their horrible actions influenced a horrible event and they can just go "not my fault at all, not my problem". You didn't do it, but your actions influenced it to a very high extent. You played a part in it. Take responsibility for at least that much.

I'm not saying I think all bullies deserve to be jailed...I truly have no idea of what would be an appropriate action to take once something like this has happened. But I really think things like this keep happening because we allow people to absolve themselves of any sort of responsibility.
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I have 1 child & live in Maryland
posted 29th Jan
Quoting Rydicule91:" Oh I know, I'm not saying it wasnt a horrible tragedy. I know they went waaayyy too far. Which is ... [snip!] ... she can't be not held responsible for giving them amo you know? They just developed it into a machine gun and took her out!"

Oh I don't think they should be charged with any sort or manslaughter or assisted murder or anything. But harassment yes.
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I have 2 kids & live in Albuquerque, New Mexico
posted 29th Jan
Quoting Buzz and Almond Joys momm:" Oh I don't think they should be charged with any sort or manslaughter or assisted murder or anything. But harassment yes."


Totally with you. Smurf I was bullied A LOT in school. Called fat, ugly, constantly. I think people just lack coping skills. I remember though when someone said something to you and smurfing said something back or scrapped. And then usually it was over and they moved on to another person. But now it's like, unbelievable. I miss the old days....
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I live in Arizona
posted 29th Jan
The case that brought up this post is about an 11 year old. Isn't that elementary school still? Teens/young adults, fine, they made the choice to kill themselves.. but NO 11 year old little girl should EVER feel like that is her only way out of being teased.
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I have 2 kids & 3 angel babies & live in Switzerland
posted 29th Jan
Sure.. if it can be PROVED that the bullies did something against the law.. but you can not charge them with anything related to the death of the person who killed themselves or killed anyone else.

If it can be proven, that a teen assulted another teen and the one being assaulted killed themself, yes, the bully can be charged with assault but not any kind of charge for the death of another. If they didn't plan the death or commit the killing, they can't and shouldn't be charged for it.
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I have 2 kids & live in Nova Scotia
posted 29th Jan
Hmm, i read that Amanda was messing around with her friends and flashed on a webcam to a (paedophile who was impersonating) a boy. That the pedo stalked her for 3-4 years and sent her photos to every new school she went to so people would pick on her and threatened if she didn't flash him again he'd show the pics to her newest school. She didn't do it so he sent the pics to everyone inc the teachers. That's a very different story  
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I live in Texas
posted 29th Jan
Quoting Mama*AtoZ:" Hmm, i read that Amanda was messing around with her friends and flashed on a webcam to a (paedophile ... [snip!] ... pics to her newest school. She didn't do it so he sent the pics to everyone inc the teachers. That's a very different story  "

No, she actually sent the pictures to a boy her own age..
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I have 2 kids & live in Nova Scotia
posted 30th Jan
Quoting ☮ Phuket:" that kids who are bullied and commit suicide, should recieve justice by charging the kids who bullied ... [snip!] ... what you think about that? or should no one have to pay for the consiquences of some one else and their mental instability?"


Mental instability? Hah.... it's not being mentally unstable if you are bullied to the brink of suicide. Anyone can snap when pushed and its to me, not a matter of whether you are stable or not.

Yes, people should be charged. The kids that bullied me did it in such smurfing horrible ways I snapped. I can tell you the story of what happened at my old school... seriosuly I still have issues with those people. I can not see them without raging inside of my own head. Being called "Bloody Mary" and tormented... good lord. I was beyond the point of tormented.

One day I came home and snapped, literally snapped and said to my Mom "Choose one. Get me out of this school or Im killing myself. Im smurfing DONE."

We moved an hour away right after that. I was taken out of school and we left. I was serious, I was going to kill myself. Yet, I WAS mentally stable. I do not believe being suicidal is indicative that you are not stable, though with some it is. Some people are stable enough to realize, oh jeeze this life really is smurfing horrible, I'm out! The ones that I think arent that stable are the ones who deny that people can hurt so bad that the best choice in their lives is to leave. That kind of mental pain, day in and day out, really messes with you. But I also am in favor of assisted suicide, it should be legal. Especially with long term illnesses and such.

If I hadnt of moved. Id be dead. Seriously, I couldnt handle my old school. Loved the school itself, but the kids inside... they made life smurfing hell.
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I have 1 child & live in Golden, Colorado
posted 30th Jan
Quoting Layla-and-Faith:" No, she actually sent the pictures to a boy her own age.."

Was that info the result of a legal investigation?
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I live in Texas
posted 30th Jan
Something else has to be going on in a child's head beside's the fact that they were bullied to make them commit suicide. To put the blame fully on the bully is wrong. I question why parent's didn't notice their child's behavior changing,and why didn't they get them help before it got to the point of suicide?
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I have 1 child & live in Memphis, Tennessee
posted 30th Jan
Quoting Layla-and-Faith:" No, I don't think they should be charged. It's not anyone elses fault that the person who commited suscide ... [snip!] ... and them alone who make the choice to end their life, no one else should be held responsible for someone elses personal choice."
I couldn't agree more! To answer the original OP they should be charged with harassment,because that's exactly what they did.
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I have 1 child & live in Memphis, Tennessee
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