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re: America will be the next Nazi Germany

posted 30th Jan
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting emerald01:</b>" Republicans think that stopping government will ... [snip!] ... get our debt under control have no other leverage to shrink our deficit and debt and get a BUDGET passed that is responsible."
The government was shut down before in '95 and things slowed way down and the Republicans learned the hard way. But we never have had a default on our debt.
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I have 1 child & live in Oregon
posted 30th Jan
Quoting emerald01:" But they gave a lot more to Mitt Romney. A lot big business perform government projects and need a stable ... [snip!] ... much money changes hands every second. Thats all for tonight. Tomorrow I will go into more detail of what all this means. "

Why do you think those companies gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to Obama?
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I'm due December 22nd, have 3 kids & live in Oregon
posted 30th Jan
<blockquote><b>Quoting emerald01:</b>" But they gave a lot more to Mitt Romney. A lot big business perform government projects and need a stable ... [snip!] ... much money changes hands every second. Thats all for tonight. Tomorrow I will go into more detail of what all this means. "</blockquote>




Imagine the positive lift we'd give the global market if we had a 10 yr plan to get out of debt.
Imagine the positive impact we'd have if we got our unemployment rate down to 5-6% again.
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I have 1 child & live in Pennsylvania
posted 30th Jan
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" Exactly! Cutting spending isn't popular. Romney mentioned cutting funding to PBS and that's all liberals could talk about for the rest of the election."
PBS isn't that big. Its like .0000004% of the budget most their money comes from donations too. Romney was afraid to talk about real spending cuts. He didn't want to talk about cutting social security or the military
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I have 1 child & live in Oregon
posted 30th Jan
<blockquote><b>Quoting emerald01:</b>" The government was shut down before in '95 and things slowed way down and the Republicans learned the hard way. But we never have had a default on our debt. "</blockquote>




And, they only way we would default is if Obama and the White House agreed to not write those checks. Millions and millions of dollars are collected each day by the federal government. We can cover our debt.
Again, you aren't absorbing the whole story.
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I have 1 child & live in Pennsylvania
posted 30th Jan
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting emerald01:</b>" But they gave a lot more to Mitt Romney. A lot ... [snip!] ... a 10 yr plan to get out of debt. Imagine the positive impact we'd have if we got our unemployment rate down to 5-6% again."

The debt isn't the problem right now. It would just slow down the economy and we would go back into a deep recession. This isn't a business. We need more revenue.
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I have 1 child & live in Oregon
posted 30th Jan
Quoting emerald01:" PBS isn't that big. Its like .0000004% of the budget most their money comes from donations too. Romney ... [snip!] ... too. Romney was afraid to talk about real spending cuts. He didn't want to talk about cutting social security or the military "

That's my point exactly.

Romney mentions an itty bitty teeny tiny cut and the liberals flip their smurf for weeks. If he had started talking about the cuts that need to be made, they probably would have lynched him.
quotesmurfs?
I'm due December 22nd, have 3 kids & live in Oregon
posted 30th Jan
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting emerald01:</b>" The government was shut down before in '95 and ... [snip!] ... dollars are collected each day by the federal government. We can cover our debt. Again, you aren't absorbing the whole story."
You would have to pay bond holders before anybody else, but it would cause the markets to crash.
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I have 1 child & live in Oregon
posted 30th Jan
Quoting emerald01:" The debt isn't the problem right now. It would just slow down the economy and we would go back into a deep recession. This isn't a business. We need more revenue. "

Oh lord...this is not a revenue problem.

Where do you propose we get the trillion dollar budget shortfall from? Eliminating loopholes?
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I'm due December 22nd, have 3 kids & live in Oregon
posted 30th Jan
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" Oh lord...this is not a revenue problem. Where do you propose we get the trillion dollar budget shortfall from? Eliminating loopholes?"
This is a revenue problem. People not working and states running out of funds caused the federal government to step and help out.
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I have 1 child & live in Oregon
posted 30th Jan
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" That's my point exactly. Romney mentions an itty bitty teeny tiny cut and the liberals flip their ... [snip!] ... flip their smurf for weeks. If he had started talking about the cuts that need to be made, they probably would have lynched him."
He would've lost even more votes.
quotesmurfs?
I have 1 child & live in Oregon
posted 30th Jan
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting emerald01:</b>" The bankers told the Republicans not to put ... [snip!] ... every informed person knows that allowing the debt issue to not be addressed in a serious way is dangerously irresponsible."
You can't look at it like that because those austerity measures make it worse; in Spain nearly 40% unemployment. You're getting even lees revenue coming in.
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I have 1 child & live in Oregon
posted 30th Jan
Quoting emerald01:" He would've lost even more votes. "

And do you see why it's impossible to compete with Obama? He's like Santa Claus and Romney was the guy was like, "Uh, we can't afford Christmas this year...who's with me?"
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I'm due December 22nd, have 3 kids & live in Oregon
posted 30th Jan
Quoting emerald01:" This is a revenue problem. People not working and states running out of funds caused the federal government to step and help out. "

Getting people back to work is not going to solve a $1 trillion shortfall. Especially if they're going back to work for the government.
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I'm due December 22nd, have 3 kids & live in Oregon
posted 31st Jan
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" And do you see why it's impossible to compete with Obama? He's like Santa Claus and Romney was the guy was like, "Uh, we can't afford Christmas this year...who's with me?""
They give to their big donors who don't need it, which don't help him. It doesn't help when your whole business was making money from people losing their jobs while stashing it in offshore accounts.
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I have 1 child & live in Oregon
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