Quoting ♥Sandy Cay♥:" Exactly.....he was trained for this type of situation. In this situation, the officer felt his life was in danger, so he acted as such. "

His life wasn't in danger after he shot him the first couple of times when the man was already on the ground. He shot to KILL him. If not, he wouldn't have kept firing when he was on the ground...

Quoting Sonia[MOBAS]:" Honestly, my initial reaction was that the officer was not justified but after reading the report and getting an idea of who this man is I have changed my mind."

That shouldn't matter. What he did before is irrelevant. At the time the video was taken, the cop was not in danger, a knife vs. a gun...well, more than one gun as there were more police there. And it most definitely wasn't in danger when he was already on the ground bleeding out...

Quoting ~Ice Princess~:" That shouldn't matter. What he did before is irrelevant. At the time the video was taken, the cop was ... [snip!] ... gun as there were more police there. And it most definitely wasn't in danger when he was already on the ground bleeding out..."

It does matter, the police were looking for him because he was a parolee at large . the police officer was notified, if I remember correctly that the suspect was believed to have a throwing knife. When the suspect got out of the car the officer saw what appeared to be the knife. He was the only officer on the scene when the shooting happened.

Quoting Sonia[MOBAS]:" It does matter, the police were looking for him because he was a parolee at large . the police officer ... [snip!] ... out of the car the officer saw what appeared to be the knife. He was the only officer on the scene when the shooting happened."

Where'd the other police come from then...cause they were there when his wife came out.

And he "thought" he saw a knife. You can't gun someone down because you thought you saw a weapon. That's a ridiculous policy.

And of course the DA report is going to protect his case...they protect their own too often.

Cops get away with too much. They're no better than regular people and should be treated the same when they MURDER someone. If he hadn't kept shooting when he was DOWN, he might still be alive.

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Ice Princess~:</b>" Where'd the other police come from then...cause they were there when his wife came out. And he "thought" ... [snip!] ... and should be treated the same when they MURDER someone. If he hadn't kept shooting when he was DOWN, he might still be alive."</blockquote>



Cops are trained to 'shoot to kill", if they are in fear for their lives.

Very new legislation was introduced in 2010, to change this, but it got nowhere. I grew up with a cop for a step-dad and this is something that I know to be true. Military are also trained to "shoot to kill".

There are bad cops, sure, but the majority don't freely shoot people at will.

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ~Ice Princess~:</b>" Where'd the other police come from then...cause ... [snip!] ... Military are also trained to "shoot to kill". There are bad cops, sure, but the majority don't freely shoot people at will."</blockquote>




And that's why policy needs to change. It's wrong.

Quoting ~Ice Princess~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ~Ice ... [snip!] ... but the majority don't freely shoot people at will."</blockquote> And that's why policy needs to change. It's wrong."

So much could have been done "different" in this situation. Ernie should have stayed in his seat and put his hands where the officer could clearly see that he did not have a weapon. Maybe the officer could have used his stun gun to subdue the parolee.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Sonia[MOBAS]:</b>" Honestly, my initial reaction was that the officer was not justified but after reading the report and getting an idea of who this man is I have changed my mind."</blockquote>



So because he has made some mistakes in his life that changes his rights as a human being? He was no incarcerated! He is entitled to the same treatment as any other citizen! Just because the cops know him because of prior arrests doesn't give them the right to kill him.

This is sad.

And even if he did shoot because his life was in danger, once the person was on the ground there is no excuse why the cop didn't check on his welfare.

The cop should have started CPR. Instead he was too concerned about a knife and putting cuffs on a limp lifeless person.

What's his excuse there?

Quoting James Mama:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Sonia[MOBAS]:</b>" Honestly, my initial reaction was that the ... [snip!] ... other citizen! Just because the cops know him because of prior arrests doesn't give them the right to kill him. This is sad."

You are right it is sad and I wouldn't wish this kind of death on anybody. When you are a parolee and at large and have a history it changes the way a police officer may handle the situation in my opinion.

Also, I don't think that when you are on parole you get the same treatment as every other citizen.

Quoting James Mama:" And even if he did shoot because his life was in danger, once the person was on the ground there is no ... [snip!] ... started CPR. Instead he was too concerned about a knife and putting cuffs on a limp lifeless person. What's his excuse there?"

Honestly I don't know, I thought that was kind of weird too. But I am not a police officer or anything close. I am simply stating my opinion like everyone else.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Sonia[MOBAS]:</b>" You are right it is sad and I wouldn't wish this kind of death on anybody. When you are a parolee and ... [snip!] ... situation in my opinion. Also, I don't think that when you are on parole you get the same treatment as every other citizen."</blockquote>


Have you never made a mistake in your life? Of course if he is on parole some of his basic rights are taken. This does not include the right to live or be rescued.

Quoting James Mama:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Sonia[MOBAS]:</b>" You are right it is sad and I wouldn't wish ... [snip!] ... life? Of course if he is on parole some of his basic rights are taken. This does not include the right to live or be rescued."

I have made plenty of mistakes but none that have given me a bad rep with the law.

Quoting Sonia[MOBAS]:" I have made plenty of mistakes but none that have given me a bad rep with the law."

You don't know what his crimes were. Just because YOU have never gotten in trouble with the law doesn't mean those who have are less deserving of equal treatment.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Tarynosaurus Rex:</b>" You don't know what his crimes were. Just because YOU have never gotten in trouble with the law doesn't mean those who have are less deserving of equal treatment. "</blockquote>



Exactly.

If that was any other citizen and not a cop they would be charged with murder. We don't get away with saying 'oh I thought he had a knife'

Cops are treated above the law and aren't held accountable for obeying laws.

Cops speed all over the place! It's dangerous yet they feel entitled to do what they please because they get away with it.