re: Sandy Hook Parents not fake, misguided situation?

Quoting LeTs*StArT*a*RiOt!:" "THE MAIN POINT is that the government is trying to take everyone's guns away. I can't imagine why ... [snip!] ... Germans felt the same way when their leader began to take guns away, using the children as a platform to disarm the citizens."

What?! Of course I have. What part of those executive orders states, "We're taking all your guns away?"

Quoting Daenerys™:" I agree with that. There's no way Barack Obama is calling the shots. He's just a face. I feel like such a loon saying that in public but it's honestly how I feel  ops:"

Ditto. The president doesn't call hardly any shots.

In the new gun law they just did, they are providing allowance to hire more police. IF this was about gun control lowering crime, WHY in the smurf do we need to hire more police? Why would that be included?

Quoting Stfu Shirley:" There's a lot more to it than that though. Chicago has some of the worst neighborhoods in America. I ... [snip!] ... criminals to get guns. I know they'll get them anyway, I'm not stupid. But why make it so easy? What's the advantage of that?"

From the World Health Organization:

The latest Murder Statistics for the world:

Murders per 100,000 citizens

Honduras 91.6
El Salvador 69.2
Cote d'lvoire 56.9
Jamaica 52.2
Venezuela 45.1
Belize 41.4
US
Virgin Islands 39.2
Guatemala 38.5
Saint Kits and
Nevis 38.2
Zambia
38.0
Uganda 36.3
Malawi 36.0
Lesotho 35.2
Trinidad and Tobago 35.2
Colombia 33.4
South Africa 31.8
Congo 30.8
Central African Republic 29.3
Bahamas 27.4
Puerto Rico 26.2
Saint Lucia 25.2
Dominican Republic 25.0
Tanzania 24.5
Sudan 24.2
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9
Ethiopia 22.5
Guinea 22.5
Dominica 22.1
Burundi 21.7
Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7
Panama 21.6
Brazil 21.0
Equatorial Guinea 20.7
Guinea-Bissau 20.2
Kenya 20.1
Kyrgyzstan 20.1
Cameroon 19.7
Montserrat 19.7
Greenland 19.2
Angola 19.0
Guyana 18.6
Burkina Faso 18.0
Eritrea 17.8
Namibia 17.2
Rwanda 17.1
Mexico 16.9
Chad 15.8
Ghana 15.7
Ecuador 15.2
North Korea 15.2
Benin 15.1
Sierra Leone 14.9
Mauritania 14.7
Botswana 14.5
Zimbabwe 14.3
Gabon 13.8
Nicaragua 13.6
French Guiana 13.3
Papua New Guinea 13.0
Swaziland 12.9
Bermuda 12.3
Comoros 12.2
Smurfia 12.2
Cape Verde 11.6
Grenada 11.5
Paraguay 11.5
Barbados 11.3
Togo 10.9
Gambia 10.8
Peru 10.8
Myanmar 10.2
Russia 10.2
Liberia 10.1
Costa Rica 10.0
Nauru 9.8
Bolivia 8.9
Mozambique 8.8
Kazakhstan 8.8
Senegal 8.7
Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7
Mongolia 8.7
British Virgin Islands 8.6
Cayman Islands 8.4
Seychelles 8.3
Madagascar 8.1
Indonesia 8.1
Mali 8.0
Pakistan 7.8
Moldova 7.5
Kiribati 7.3
Guadeloupe 7.0
Haiti 6.9
Timor-Leste 6.9
Anguilla 6.8
Antigua and Barbuda 6.8
Lithuania 6.6
Uruguay 5.9
Philippines 5.4
Ukraine 5.2
Estonia 5.2
Cuba 5.0
Belarus 4.9
Thailand 4.8
Suriname 4.6
Laos 4.6
Georgia 4.3
Martinique 4.2
And
The United States 4.2
ALL the countries above
America have 100% gun bans


This tells me that gun bans do not work.

Quoting Stfu Shirley:" What?! Of course I have. What part of those executive orders states, "We're taking all your guns away?""

It doesn't say that exactly. YET.

Give it time. I'm sure it'll happen. Especially the way things have been going lately. Forcing people to have healthcare or pay a penalty, now the new gun laws that he's pushing through without going through the House and the Senate, even the stuff he was caught on camera saying to a foreign leader about how he'd 'be more flexible' and could do more after he got re-elected.

This is the term that we'll see his true colors show.

Quoting Stfu Shirley:" What?! Of course I have. What part of those executive orders states, "We're taking all your guns away?""

Give it time.

Quoting Sarah Bare-ah♡:" From the World Health Organization: The latest Murder Statistics for the world: Murders per 100,000 ... [snip!] ... 4.2 And The United States 4.2 ALL the countries above America have 100% gun bans This tells me that gun bans do not work. "

That list is skewed, as most of those are developing countries with really unstable government.

Show me some first world ones and their laws?

Quoting LeTs*StArT*a*RiOt!:" Even with if it WAS a good idea, and it's not, I'd really like to see him pull this off without any issues. You can't strip away chunks of the second amendment and have that go down swimmingly.  "

They did it to the citizens of Chicago for over 30 years.

Quoting Sarah Bare-ah♡:" Give it time."

But the government is being accused of trying to take everyone's guns NOW.

Why would they want to do that? How would the government benefit from taking all its citizens guns away? Anyone?

Quoting Stfu Shirley:" But the government is being accused of trying to take everyone's guns NOW. Why would they want to do that? How would the government benefit from taking all its citizens guns away? Anyone?"

So they can over power us.

Quoting Daenerys™:" They did it to the citizens of Chicago for over 30 years. "

Yeah, but that was for one small, very dangerous city... Not the entire US. KWIM?

Quoting Sarah Bare-ah♡:" So they can over power us. "

For what purpose?
And they already CAN overpower us.

Quoting Stfu Shirley:" There's a lot more to it than that though. Chicago has some of the worst neighborhoods in America. I ... [snip!] ... criminals to get guns. I know they'll get them anyway, I'm not stupid. But why make it so easy? What's the advantage of that?"

Regardless of the fact that we have the worst neighborhoods, the guns that are floating around here are illegally possessed. The bad guys have guns and law abiding citizens cannot arm themselves against the people that have the guns illegally. There is something seriously wrong with that picture and if you can't see it, then God help you.

Quoting Stfu Shirley:" But the government is being accused of trying to take everyone's guns NOW. Why would they want to do that? How would the government benefit from taking all its citizens guns away? Anyone?"

I dunno, why'd Hitler take away all of the German citizens' guns before he started going nuts and started the Holocaust and WW2?

 

You act like a government trying something like this has never happened.

Quoting LeTs*StArT*a*RiOt!:" Yeah, but that was for one small, very dangerous city... Not the entire US. KWIM?"

I do know what you mean. Point is, the people should have taken a stand on this a long time ago. Kids are getting killed left and right here and there's nothing we can do to protect them except pray for them.