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government D&D.

posted 15th Jan
How long have people been saying the government is poisoning water, food, air, ect?
I've just started looking into it, but it seems to me people feel that the government is poisoning us slowly.
And the whole involuntary de fertilization, what about that?
I'm just curious as to how other people feel about these topics and what you believe.
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I have 1 child & live in Georgia
posted 15th Jan
I don't know about poisoning us, but I do believe they do things we aren't aware of that aren't in our best interests.
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I have 2 kids & live in West Virginia
posted 15th Jan
Ehh I dislike how they put crap in our water... like chlorine, fluoride...
I don't think they are trying to poison us, I just think they are ignorant of what the long term affects can/will be.
Oh and vaccines, yuck. lol
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I'm due September 28th (a girl), have 4 kids & live in Nova Scotia
posted 15th Jan
Interesting... haven't heard of this.
Links?
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I have 1 child & live in Germany
posted 15th Jan
I don't think the government is that terrible but seeing the things that are allowed in our food... I wouldn't put some things past them. We are poisoning the air on our own by driving cars, using electricity and basically anything that is the equivalent to a modern convenience.
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I live in Switzerland
posted 15th Jan
<blockquote><b>Quoting Kimber-lily:</b>" Ehh I dislike how they put crap in our water... like chlorine, fluoride... I don't think they are trying ... [snip!] ... are trying to poison us, I just think they are ignorant of what the long term affects can/will be. Oh and vaccines, yuck. lol"</blockquote>




I somewhat agree I don't think they are poisoning everyone.
But there's so much in foods and what not these days that it can't be good long term for anyone.

I vaccinate DD but I'm too scared not too, I'm aware of what's in vaccines I just feel that is she was to contract some illness that i could have prevented i would feel guilty for the rest of My life.
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I have 1 child & live in Georgia
posted 15th Jan
<blockquote><b>Quoting Kimber-lily:</b>" Ehh I dislike how they put crap in our water... like chlorine, fluoride... I don't think they are trying ... [snip!] ... are trying to poison us, I just think they are ignorant of what the long term affects can/will be. Oh and vaccines, yuck. lol"</blockquote>



They most definitely are not ignorant. They are well aware of the affects these chemicals will have and are starting to have on humans/animals. It's just so my h cheaper for them.
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I have 2 kids & live in Sweden
posted 15th Jan
<blockquote><b>Quoting Rd.:</b>" Interesting... haven't heard of this. Links?"</blockquote>




http://www.infowars.com/slow-kill-holocaust-proof-the-government-is-poisoning-you/
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I have 1 child & live in Georgia
posted 15th Jan
MIL thinks the government is sneaking stuff into our bodies via vaccines. She thinks they're trying to mind control us.

MIL is freaking insane. It's all conspiricy theories IMO
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I have 1 child & live in Auckland, New Zealand
posted 15th Jan
Quoting Ole' No Name:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Kimber-lily:</b>" Ehh I dislike how they put crap in our water... ... [snip!] ... I just feel that is she was to contract some illness that i could have prevented i would feel guilty for the rest of My life."

If your concerned about food, your best choice would to try to not to buy anything pre-packaged. If you want meats, go to a butcher. My family buys a cow a year, it costs 1,600 but it lasts and we know where it comes from and how it's raised and slaughtered..
Vegetables are easy too, just don't buy anything packaged. Even those 'baby carrots' have been soaked in a chlorine bath.

As for vaccines, we are the opposite than you. We are afraid to vaccinate, I would be terrified if something happened to my babies and it's because I willingly took them to get a vaccine. We just practice a healthy life style, and try not to be afraid of germs.
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I'm due September 28th (a girl), have 4 kids & live in Nova Scotia
posted 15th Jan
Info wars has good info. Alex Jones news radio. But you have to filter and use common sense with some things you hear. Anonymous if you haven't heard of them.

I don't put anything past the government.
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I have 3 kids & live in Washington
posted 15th Jan
Quoting ILOVEWINE:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Kimber-lily:</b>" Ehh I dislike how they put crap in our water... ... [snip!] ... aware of the affects these chemicals will have and are starting to have on humans/animals. It's just so my h cheaper for them."


What is cheaper for them, like the type of chemical?


I buy jugs of water and I take the cap off and let it sit for 48 hours since chlorine is supposed to evaporate... Can't really get rid of the fluoride (I don't think?), so we try to limit our intake from other sources.
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I'm due September 28th (a girl), have 4 kids & live in Nova Scotia
posted 15th Jan
<blockquote><b>Quoting Kimber-lily:</b>" What is cheaper for them, like the type of chemical? I buy jugs of water and I take the cap off and ... [snip!] ... to evaporate... Can't really get rid of the fluoride (I don't think?), so we try to limit our intake from other sources. "</blockquote>




Yes all the chemicals, it's sick. A few years ago I had to write a paper on GMF, and ever since I grow and farm my families food.
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I have 2 kids & live in Sweden
posted 16th Jan
NEW YORK, Oct. 2 /PRNewswire/ -- Consuming fluoridated water doesn't prevent cavities, according to a new U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) report, because fluoride is claimed to reduce tooth decay after, not before, teeth erupt. CDC's conclusion that "water fluoridation should be extended," is unsubstantiated by this report. In fact, CDC proves the opposite.
Quote: More alarming are assurances that fluoridation is absolutely safe but the Environmental Protection Agency says fluoridation chemicals used by over 90% of fluoridating communities, silicofluorides, have never been tested for safety http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rmasters/letter.jpg).
"The switch to silicofluorides about 50 years ago (from sodium fluoride) may have been an enormous mistake," say Roger Masters (Dartmouth Professor and President, Foundation for Neuroscience & Society) and Myron Coplan (chemical engineer, Intellequity Consulting), who have published extensively on the effects of these chemicals.
Summarizing their work, Masters says, "where silicofluorides are in use, there are higher rates of behavioral problems that have been linked to lead toxicity (including hyperactivity and other learning disabilities, substance abuse, and violent crime)."
http://www.dentistryiq.com/articles/rdh/2001/10/little-evidence-fluoridation-reduces-tooth-decay.html

In a meta-analysis, researchers from Harvard School of Public Health (HSPH) and China Medical University in Shenyang for the first time combined 27 studies and found strong indications that fluoride may adversely affect cognitive development in children. Based on the findings, the authors say that this risk should not be ignored, and that more research on fluoride’s impact on the developing brain is warranted.

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They then analyzed possible associations with IQ measures in more than 8,000 children of school age; all but one study suggested that high fluoride content in water may negatively affect cognitive development. The average loss in IQ was reported as a standardized weighted mean difference of 0.45, which would be approximately equivalent to seven IQ points for commonly used IQ scores with a standard deviation of 15.* Some studies suggested that even slightly increased fluoride exposure could be toxic to the brain. Thus, children in high-fluoride areas had significantly lower IQ scores than those who lived in low-fluoride areas.
Quote: “Fluoride seems to fit in with lead, mercury, and other poisons that cause chemical brain drain,” Grandjean says. “The effect of each toxicant may seem small, but the combined damage on a population scale can be serious, especially because the brain power of the next generation is crucial to all of us.”
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-childrens-health-grandjean-choi/
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I have 2 kids & 8 angel babies & live in Climax, Michigan
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