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posted 13th Jan
My DD is 11.5 months and 15lbs. 26 inches.

She eats more then a 2 yr old and gains no weight. Your lo should be fine.
all babies are different. At 6 months lo was 10lbs
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I have 3 kids & live in Ontario
posted 13th Jan
<blockquote><b>Quoting Piecey.:</b>" I'd really like to see this research or whatever that you claim says it's okay to introduce some major allergen foods."</blockquote>




If I wasn't at the clinic and on my phone I would hook u up with Canada's guidelines.

Its true nothing is off limits but honey . At 6 months Dr here say feed them food cause they need it. We don't have food is for fun before one here.

Its 6 months they tell us to fed them food. Peanuts fish etc......

Canada studies show waiting to give allergen foods is NOT helpful in reducing the risk but maybe the cause of giving allergies.

That's why us Canadians feed our kids those foods its encouraged too.

But personal preference also comes in it. If we choose to follow or not...Kwim?
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I have 3 kids & live in Ontario
posted 13th Jan
<blockquote><b>Quoting crazy coupon lady:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Piecey.:</b>" I'd really like to see this research or whatever ... [snip!] ... feed our kids those foods its encouraged too. But personal preference also comes in it. If we choose to follow or not...Kwim?"</blockquote>



Thanks for that all you said is what my doctor told me. At 6 months they don't get all the stuff they need from milk anymore that's why you should start solids. And everything but honey because its not pasteurized
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I live in Ontario
posted 13th Jan
I didnt know the immune systems of Canadian babies and American babies were so vastly different.
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Boston, Massachusetts
posted 13th Jan
<blockquote><b>Quoting Ravey Candyass:</b>" I didnt know the immune systems of Canadian babies and American babies were so vastly different."</blockquote>




There not. Canada has just done more studies on the issue. All guidelines for Canada changed as of January 1 2012.

I'm going to post links when at home.
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I have 3 kids & live in Ontario
posted 13th Jan
Quoting Ravey Candyass:" I didnt know the immune systems of Canadian babies and American babies were so vastly different."

They're not but as americans we shelter from things we shouldnt and expose things we shouldnt. Our country is ass backwards.
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I'm due October 6th (a boy), have 1 child & 2 angel babies & live in Massachusetts
posted 13th Jan
Quoting Piecey.:" I'd really like to see this research or whatever that you claim says it's okay to introduce some major allergen foods."

In the US, we have been restricting foods more than ever.... and we have more food allergies than ever.
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I have 1 child & live in Pennsylvania
posted 13th Jan
Quoting love button:" <blockquote><b>Quoting crazy coupon lady:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Piecey.:</b>" ... [snip!] ... the stuff they need from milk anymore that's why you should start solids. And everything but honey because its not pasteurized"


That is partially true as you never know how much nutrients a baby has stored in their body and how they matablize foods.
That said, formula can provide most or all that a bay needs until a year when they transition off of formula to food.
Around 6-8 months, most baies are just "getting trained" on eating and swallowing solids. It's also fun and playful for the baby and family. Usually, not much nutrition is taken in. As they get closer to 12 months, they usually eat more and more and food begins to replace formula. Around 12 months most babies get enough from solids to allow them to switch from formula to milk and solids.
For us, after 12 months, on days when our LO didnt eat much, we gave her a bedtime bottle of formula to make sure she was getting enough nutrients. By 13-14 months this stopped as she was eating a variety of nutritious foods very well.
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I have 1 child & live in Pennsylvania
posted 13th Jan
Ok here is some links to canadas guidelines......first one is from canadas pediatric and our number 1 recommended site to parents from our pedi and the hospital
http://www.caringforkids.cps.ca/handouts/feeding_your_baby_in_the_first_year

http://www.actionagainstallergy.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=145:infant-food-allergies&catid=3:newsflash&Itemid=525

Introducing Solid Foods
The first consensus document on the introduction of solid foods for the food-allergic infant was published in July 2006 by the Adverse Reactions to Foods Committee of the American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology . They recommended that introduction of the multiple allergens in solid foods to the allergic infant is preferably delayed until after six months of age. Until this age the authors suggest that the infant's immature digestive tract and immune system may increase the risk of sensitization and development of allergy. Furthermore, it was recommended that the most highly allergenic foods should not be introduced until after one year of age or later. Specific times of introduction were suggested as: cow’s milk at 12 months; egg at 24 months; peanut, tree nut and fish at three years. Most Western countries, including the UK, followed these recommendations.
However, more recent research has demonstrated that these recommendations were neither supported by evidence-based research nor were they effective in practice. Newer position papers reflect this change in approach. The AAP paper, published in 20087 states, “..the evidence…does not allow one to conclude that there is a strong relationship between the timing of the introduction of complementary foods and development of atopic disease”.
According to the current published guidelines of all paediatric societies and consensus committees, solid foods should be introduced individually and gradually, starting at about four to six months of age. Each food should be introduced, ideally over a four-day period, with careful monitoring of the baby for the development of signs of allergy. Some studies suggest that foods, especially gluten-containing grains, should be introduced at about six months of age while breast-feeding for optimum tolerance development . Early introduction (e.g. before one year of age) of even highly allergenic foods such as peanut is likely to lead to tolerance rather than sensitisation .
There is no evidence to suggest that any food should be delayed after six months of age, nor guidelines to suggest any particular order of introduction of solid foods. No mixed foods should be given until each food in the mixture has been given to the baby and is tolerated. Current research is indicating that there may be a “window of opportunity” when the child’s immune system is most likely to tolerate the food, and that if this is missed there may be an increased likelihood of sensitization. Future research will undoubtedly reveal the ideal times for introduction of specific foods.
Summary of Dietary Guidelines for the High Risk for Allergy Baby during Pregnancy, Lactation, and Early Infant Feeding
• A high risk for allergy is defined as a baby with one first degree relative (parent or sibling) with a diagnosed allergy
• There should be no dietary restriction during pregnancy except:
o Mother must avoid her own allergenic foods to avoid any allergic reactions
It is essential that mother should obtain complete balanced nutrition appropriate for pregnancy, and eat as wide a range of foods as possible
The allergic mother must ensure that she is consuming equivalent nutrients in the alternative foods she is eating as substitutes for her allergens
• Mother should not restrict her own diet while breast-feeding except:
o Mother must avoid her own allergenic foods
o Mother must avoid any foods to which her baby has been diagnosed as allergic
• Exclusive breast-feeding should be continued for 4 – 6 months.
• For the breast-fed baby the introduction of solid foods or infant formula (complementary foods) should be delayed until at least 4-6 moths
• If breast-feeding is not possible, hydrolyzed infant formula can be used as a measure to prevent food allergy. Extensively hydrolyzed formulas are thought to be more effective than partially hydrolyzed formulas in allergy prevention
• Soy-based formulae and other milk-based formulas (e.g. goat’s milk) are not recommended for reducing the risk of food allergy
• If the child is allergic to cow’s milk, extensively hydrolyzed casein based formulae or amino acid based formulae should be used if breast-feeding is not possible
• If the baby is not allergic to cow’s milk, a normal cow’s milk formula can be introduced as complementary food at 4-6 months
• There is no benefit in delaying the introduction of solid foods beyond 6 months of age
• There are no recommendations regarding the sequence in which complementary foods are introduced. Even highly allergenic foods can be introduced early (e.g. before 1 year) in order to maximise the development of tolerance
• Each food should be introduced separately and mixed foods introduced only after each food in the mixture has been introduced and tolerated
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I have 3 kids & live in Ontario
posted 14th Jan
Quoting crazy coupon lady:" Ok here is some links to canadas guidelines......first one is from canadas pediatric and our number 1 ... [snip!] ... be introduced separately and mixed foods introduced only after each food in the mixture has been introduced and tolerated"


THANK YOU! Where were you during many "delay-food" threads?? lol
j/k but there are some that are militant about this issue.
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I have 1 child & live in Pennsylvania
posted 14th Jan
Quoting TheNuge:" THANK YOU! Where were you during many "delay-food" threads?? lol j/k but there are some that are militant about this issue."


Youre welcome.

Lol I have been lurking around. I have been jumped on like so many others for my choices on following on this path choice. And have provided these links to others in which some responses were"I am not reading that garbage" "horrible parenting, filling your baby up with allergen foods" etc.....the list go ons and on.

A lot of Canadians still follow the path of no solids delay solids and that, when it comes down to it, its all personal choices we as parents make. Its just a guideline advice and so on.

I have studied and done so much research before making my full decision on solids. And since my older kids were on solids at 6 months with no food restrictions but honey, I did the same with mine. lol

A lot of parents that have been given the advice to start have not researched it, but have researched on TO DELAY solids.....its weird to me. lol

Im glad you enjoyed the read.   Most on here refused to read it, cause they are just against it.
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I have 3 kids & live in Ontario
posted 14th Jan
My pediatrician told me that the studies were saying that the only things I should avoid were allergies that were severe for family members. Lol. So we haven't done peanuts yet (my mom is allergic) or honey (because that's still a no no raw) but we give everything else. Even eggs. It's always a personal choice though. It's nice to see the other side.  
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I'm due August 9th (a girl), have 1 child & live in Michigan
posted 14th Jan
Quoting LoveMyBubbaBoy:" My pediatrician told me that the studies were saying that the only things I should avoid were allergies ... [snip!] ... a no no raw) but we give everything else. Even eggs. It's always a personal choice though. It's nice to see the other side.  "



Yes allergies in the family, i would hold off on as well.   I am lucky we dont have food allergies in any of our family. Pets yes and random stupid stuff like burning trees and grass. But not food.

People on BG need to accept that there can be a huge cultural difference with a world wide basis of ppl we have on her, and not assum that parents are doing wrong cause their country is different.

The car seat one bugs me too. Lets jump down someones throat cause their 6 month old is ff, but not look and see they are ffrom Austrilia where they ff by law at 6 months.....oh look lets jump down her's cause her infant seat has no chest clip, but ignore the fact they are from the UK where seats are not equiped with chest clips (they believe they are unsafe) Its the same thinf...kwim?

Ok I ran off topic and am rambling here, lol srry. These subjects make me mad at times.  
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I have 3 kids & live in Ontario
posted 14th Jan
I was thinking that too. Culture is a big factor in this. I feed my daughter things and I watch out to see how she reacts. I'm not just forcing her to eat everything. But you can't shelter your kids from everything. If she's allergic to peanuts( which she isn't because she's eaten it) I would only know if she ate it and got a reaction. But for example she doesn't do good with bananas so I stopped giving her that and ill try again when she's older. You just have to pay attention to how your baby reacts to the food and still only give infants 1-2 new foods a week to not overwhelm their sty system. If you think of it people in like Asia probably give their babies raw fish, or indian babies probably eat spicy season foods, eauropeans probably get their babies to eat raw meats and all kinds of fish. You know how many places in the world season their baby food and they are all fine. Or how many babies are taken Off breast milk or formula at way younger ages that we belive they should. Americans believe on feeding babies bland food. And it's all okay so Noone should judge anyone on what you feed your baby
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I live in Ontario
posted 14th Jan
Quoting love button:" I was thinking that too. Culture is a big factor in this. I feed my daughter things and I watch out to ... [snip!] ... Americans believe on feeding babies bland food. And it's all okay so Noone should judge anyone on what you feed your baby"



often bring up the culture difference too. When it comes to this stuf.

I always season my 11 month olds food, exactly how I like it. I donot add salt tho, but never with my own, and I always use unsalted butter anyways (I dont like salt) lol

I know what foods cause her discomfort and dont sit well with her. And at first it was broccoli, but once she got about 8 months I tried again and stomach upset from it and she eats broccoli almost every day she loves it (just like her momma)

I will be honest and say I never waited the few day rule on new foods.....I know you need too, but I never did at all. She was fine tho. But I highly DO NOT recommend others to do the same. lol
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I have 3 kids & live in Ontario
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