re: Should this teacher be terminated?

<blockquote><b>Quoting M'aiq:</b>" I feel like I'd pay to see that."</blockquote>




 

In no instance is it ever acceptable to stomp on a flag. The laws for bearing a flag are there for a reason. By law the flag is never to touch the ground. He should face punishment but not ending his career. I serve I'm the us army & I find it offensive. When we do deploy it's all for the cloth flag that seems so insignificant to others. But to some of us it's a reason to keep fighting.

Quoting Mom2William&Michael:" No, he shouldn't be. It's a flag - it's a piece of cloth with some dye on it. It is not the country and ... [snip!] ... in China or some other foreign nation. He was making a pretty solid point and one that obviously needs to be made more often."

This.

I have been a part of similar lessons like this. As an English teacher I too want my kids to look past the symbol itself and to dig into actually what it represents. The flag = America. But what is America? Dig deeper than the image and label and go into what the "thing" actually is in a mental state. Go past physical into emotional.

I would not do it myself, BUT it is not something to be terminated over. The main idea is Christianity isn't a cross, it's a set of ideals and beliefs and people bound by a common interest and thought. America isn't the flag itself, but the story behind the flag and how each of us are a "thread in the flag." Its a good lesson.

Quoting christian; ♥ +2:" In no instance is it ever acceptable to stomp on a flag. The laws for bearing a flag are there for a ... [snip!] ... do deploy it's all for the cloth flag that seems so insignificant to others. But to some of us it's a reason to keep fighting."

That is entirely dependent on the state. There are no federal laws about flag abuse.

And all South Carolina has is a $100 fine and up to 30 days in jail.

I think it's all ridiculous.

<blockquote><b>Quoting christian; ♥ +2:</b>" In no instance is it ever acceptable to stomp on a flag. The laws for bearing a flag are there for a ... [snip!] ... do deploy it's all for the cloth flag that seems so insignificant to others. But to some of us it's a reason to keep fighting."</blockquote>



Uh...outside of the army there's no laws about the flag touching the ground.

Quoting christian; ♥ +2:" In no instance is it ever acceptable to stomp on a flag. The laws for bearing a flag are there for a ... [snip!] ... do deploy it's all for the cloth flag that seems so insignificant to others. But to some of us it's a reason to keep fighting."

You deploy for a cloth flag? really? It seems insignificant to me because it's a flag. It isn't the people. If people who love that flag so much showed half the respect for even just American human life that they do for the flag, then I suppose we could find some answers to some significant problems. I can't fathom worrying about whether a flag touches the floor while there are children who are hungry, people who are literally homeless & have no shelter, people who are ill & have no care, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I get it. My mom has all these hokey rules about the bible & how it is to be venerated in her house & it must be kissed if it gets knocked onto the floor & you can't set it on the floor & read it. It's all the same hocus pocus to me. I don't venerate ANY object, no matter what it represents.

I respect things like freedom, life, humanity, etc. I don't give respect to objects. I can respect what the object represents, not ever the object itself. For certain, raising a flag (or lowering) can be very emotive & meaningful, that doesn't equate into the flag having some special powers or requiring it to be venerated unto itself.

Anyway - to the OP - no I obviously don't think he should be fired & find it ridiculous. At most, if the school board doesn't like it they should tell him not to do it next year as it caused too much of a headache with parents & find a different way to teach that same lesson that has less controversy.

Oh the irony of it. You try to teach a class that a symbol is merely a representation of something and that it should not be the actual symbol you should be "worshipping" but what it is there to represent, in this case America and the people of it. To try to show this you take the piece of cloth and stamp on it to show that hey this merely a piece of meaningless, replaceable cloth which is not worthy of worship/love/respect remember it is what it represents that is worthy of worship/love/respect...... What happens? An apparently great teacher, great American teacher, who it appears it is quite passionate about teaching his students what is the true value of America is ready to lose his job for "disrespecting" a piece of cloth, a symbol that is merely there to represent an idea of a great, proud America.

It would appear the whole thing went right over their heads.

Oh thee smurfing irony of it all.  

Quoting xTJ:" Oh the irony of it. You try to teach a class that a symbol is merely a representation of something and ... [snip!] ... great, proud America. It would appear the whole thing went right over their heads. Oh thee smurfing irony of it all.  "

My thoughts exactly. I'm going to use my first amendment right to teach my class about symbolism only to be hanged by the mob for doing so. You know, the thing the symbolic flag is meant to convey.

I think the teacher used poor taste in his demonstration.

That's pretty much my only opinion on the matter.

<blockquote><b>Quoting xTJ:</b>" Oh the irony of it. You try to teach a class that a symbol is merely a representation of something and ... [snip!] ... great, proud America. It would appear the whole thing went right over their heads. Oh thee smurfing irony of it all.  "</blockquote>




Lol, exactly

Quoting Saffy Sly:" Scott Compton, a South Carolina high school teacher, is facing possible dismissal by his school board ... [snip!] ... the case has to go to the local board and they will ultimately decide whether or not to support the superintendent’s decision.”"

I thought this thread was going to be about a teacher hitting a kid or having sex with an 18 year old student, lol.

I don't think he should be dismissed.

Quoting Saffy Sly:" I wonder if this would have been looked at different if it hadn't taken place in South Carolina."

My thoughts exactly.

Quoting Back to Noob Status:" I thought this thread was going to be about a teacher hitting a kid or having sex with an 18 year old student, lol. I don't think he should be dismissed. "

Noooo - if he did that he'd go on academic probation, with full pay & just get reinstated. Silly girl, this is MUCH more serious than that crap.