re: Nursing in Public (NIP) - Is Covering Up Necessary?

<blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" I told you that you were uneducated & ignorant when you made a blanket statement that if someone ... [snip!] ... sexual they are a feminazi. I am not trying to convert you. I am also not going to let a statement like that slide in a debate."</blockquote>



Where in this debate did I say "Everyone who doesn't think boobs are sexual is a Feminazi."? I clarified what Feminazi is to me. You skipped that part, obviously.

I likened pickle pants sour puss's statement, that somehow I was hurting a cause by not whipping it out in public, to being a feminazi.

You piece it together however you think you should, to make your point.

Quoting P Pickle Pants:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting P ... [snip!] ... at all. Your halo is crooked."</blockquote> And likening someone to genocidal maniacs is clearly equivalent.  "

Feminazi is not the same as comparing you to Hitler. You really reach, don't you?

Hitler was a nazi, sure....but so were umpteen million other people.

It's funny, there is someone on this very site who calls themself a Feminazi. she embraces it and you are insulted by it. Can't please everyone. Oh well.

You approached me in an aggressive manner in this thread. Quit whining about the response you got. What did you expect, for me to kiss your ass after you called me closed minded and ridiculous? If you were counseling someone or helping someone that wanted to nurse, but had similar reservations that I have, would you say to them, "Quit being closed minded and ridiculous"? Would you? If your answer is, "No", then maybe you should rethink your approach in this thread...because that is exactly what you did to me. If your answer is, "Yes", than you have NO BUSINESS trying to educate people on this subject, as you obviously can't be respectful or act like an adult when doing so.


You can't even see what a jerk you came across as. That's sad for anyone you talk to about this. It really is.

I'm done with you.

Quoting justanothamotha:" Million of women get boob jobs because they don't like themselves enough. That is a whole different topic. ... [snip!] ... as being in denial it exists. I know it exists, I just refuse to participate. There are lots of ugly parts of our culture."

,,,,and YOU. You jumped on this wagon when pickle puss did. You are deflecting and flat out denying that breasts are sexualized (you want to play semantics and called it "fetishized"....   WHATEVER  )

They are used, for pleasure, in a sexual way, for many people. At this point I can't use any verbage that will satisfy your need to be right.

This is where I stand on the subject:

I encourage and support BF'ing. I don't care if it's in public or not, I support it. i think that more women should do it and make it a priority.


I still BF my own son. He has never had a bottle.


I just don't care to breastfeed in public places, unless it is a quiet, relatively serene public place, meant for that purpose.

Is that all clear??

You have your panties in a wad over absolutely nothing. It leads me to believe that you and pickle puss like to fight and argue.

Have it your way. Argue all you'd like. Be overbearing jerks to someone else, though. It's not my thing.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♥ darah ♥:</b>" So because they're in Africa ... [snip!] ... to make it illegal. I don't do it and I gave reasons why. Men like boobs. Go ahead, deny it. Doesn't make it any less true."

"Breasts are sexualized in our culture"

DING DING DING. Already knew that. That's why I don't contribute to them being sexualized. And IF men get off on lactation (occasionally they do) then that's their own problem. Just like men who are attracted to children have their OWN problem.. doesn't mean I'm going to dress my kid in a burqa every time we go out.

Personally, I choose to normalize breastfeeding because that's what it is - normal.

Even my 16 year old brother is more mature than you. In his own words "I don't know why so many people have a problem with breastfeeding. You're just feeding a baby."

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" Actually no - MOST men & women in ... [snip!] ... "uneducated" or "ignorant" about the practice of breastfeeding all over the world. I'm not speaking for anyone but myself."

You just called an entire culture/race uncivilized because they don't live their lives exactly like you do. That is extremely ignorant and such a white-supremacist attitude.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♥ darah ♥:</b>" So because they're in Africa ... [snip!] ... will come into play, including cultural differences. This should go without saying, but you don't seem to get that. Pity."

Yeah, you're right there weren't any implications in that sentence, whatsoever.
                

Quoting justanothamotha:" Oh for sure there are men that get off on lactating women. There are men who get off on women who wear ... [snip!] ... that like the highlight of the fetish itself. If we just took nips out of hiding, I think this whole issue would go away. poof"

All great points.
Maybe I should stop wearing high heels for fear that men might find it sexually appealing. lol

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" I told you that you were uneducated & ... [snip!] ...Where in this debate did I say "Everyone who doesn't think boobs are sexual is a Feminazi."? I clarified what Feminazi is to me. You skipped that part, obviously. ...... by not whipping it out in public, to being a feminazi. You piece it together however you think you should, to make your point."

You used feminazi in this way:
"Bummer for you if they are ONLY '"tools". They aren't for most women....except maybe the feminazi's on BG ;p"

IDK, it sounds to me like you say here that everyone who doesn't find breasts inherently sexual IS a feminazi. How was that supposed to read?

I am not trying to piece it together to make my point. I am showing what you've said because you seem to forget or ignore it.

Like I said, I don't care if someone nurses in private. I do care if they make it out like it should be done in private because it's private & boobs are, well "sexual of course".

Quoting justanothamotha:" You used feminazi in this way: "Bummer for you if they are ONLY '"tools". They aren't for most women....except ... [snip!] ... I do care if they make it out like it should be done in private because it's private & boobs are, well "sexual of course". "

Denial  

I find it funny when he says I'm the one whining because I pointed out (after she whined about how rude I was (in her mind)) that she had said many of the same things to me and worse.

Call me a feminazi if you want. Doesn't bother me. But please don't be an idiot enough to act like calling someone a nazi isn't a comparison to a genicidal political group   I'm not personally offended by it, but if we're going to point fingers about who said what rude hung to whom, we should look who is being called names (I WAS just called a jerk, among other things)...

Hi pot, this is kettle. You're smurfing black as hell! For me this has been a debate about societal norms, stigma, and fighting the status quo. I have not once insulted you. I said the ideals were closed minded ideals and that no recognizing facts about how those ideals tie to practice of BFing is ridiculous.

Anything else has been inferred by HER! I have implied nothing, simply stated that women who hold the idea that breasts are primarily sexual and hide to nurse (at home, not under a cover) do nothing to promote breastfeeding on a large scale---which is a verified fact.

And I don't have to sit an preach breastfeeding to people. I sit and SHOW them and empower them to be brave enough to stand up for their own rights. Seeing me NIP (covered or not per my own preference) and do so without stress and hassle is the BEST way to encourage BFing!!!

<blockquote><b>Quoting ♥ darah ♥:</b>" "Breasts are sexualized in our culture" DING DING DING. Already knew that. That's why I don't contribute ... [snip!] ... than you. In his own words "I don't know why so many people have a problem with breastfeeding. You're just feeding a baby.""</blockquote>




You ARE just feeding a baby. I DO it. I HAVE been doing it for nearly 13 months.

You feed your child where you'd like and I'll feed mine where I'd like. If that is a big problem for you, it's YOUR problem. Own it, lady.

<blockquote><b>Quoting ♥ darah ♥:</b>" You just called an entire culture/race uncivilized because they don't live their lives exactly like you do. That is extremely ignorant and such a white-supremacist attitude."</blockquote>




I.did.not.

I clarified for the overly sensitive folk, who will pick it apart.

Learn grammar. It will help you bave your online battles in the future if you actually understand a proper sentence.

You look dumb.

<blockquote><b>Quoting ♥ darah ♥:</b>" Yeah, you're right there weren't any implications in that sentence, whatsoever.                 "</blockquote>



Not if you understand English and grammar. There are "uncivilized" countries, no? Or...you can't agree with that either.

I also furthered it by saying that it was a CULTURAL thing.....but noooooooooo! That's wrong too!

Shut up. Like I said to the others, go fight with someone else about semantics. You're good at making it about everything it's not. Run with it.

Quoting P Pickle Pants:" I find it funny when he says I'm the one whining because I pointed out (after she whined about how rude ... [snip!] ... Seeing me NIP (covered or not per my own preference) and do so without stress and hassle is the BEST way to encourage BFing!!!"

Definition of NAZI



1
: a member of a German fascist party controlling Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler

2
often not capitalized
a : one who espouses the beliefs and policies of the GermanNazis : fascist
b : one who is likened to a German Nazi : a harshly domineering, dictatorial, or intolerant person
"B" would be YOU. I didn't liken you to a "Nazi" (capitalized) I likened you to a "feminazi", attached to the meaning above.

Again, semantics.

And AGAIN, YOU came at ME. You were rude...and you MEANT to be. Actually, uncivilized would apply to you as well.

I went back, I clarified, I explained and still you come at be like some old battle axe with a grudge or something to prove.

I understand what your stance is and I never even said it was wrong. On the contrary, you hammered me for a personal feeling that I hold, just because you don't agree with it....BECAUSE APPARENTLY I AM PART OF THE PROBLEM?? You're frustration is misguided yet unyielding.

You have done nothing to convince me of anything except that there are unreasonable people who like to fight of semantics and opinions.

Congrats. <golf clap>

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" Definition of NAZI 1 : a member of a German fascist party controlling Germany from 1933 to 1945 ... [snip!] ... of anything except that there are unreasonable people who like to fight of semantics and opinions. Congrats. <golf clap>"</blockquote>



Yeah, because the top two definitions of Nazi (and its the same word whether capitolized or not) were what I spoke of. The third (last, secondary) usage is the general term---which is still based on the association with the first.

Thanks for proving what I said and saving me the trouble.

And yes, women like you who spew hate and curses at other women are part of the problem. You are the one pissed off and going full tilt at me. Your feelings are your own, don't try to pass the blame for them to me.