Don't let your child/ren

Go over to your EX without a parenting plan. I've seen it happen too many times where the guy keeps the kids & has every right to sense no parenting plan in place this girls 3 m/o I know has been at daddy's for over 2 months and she can't get her back without a lawyer....it happend to me & if I didn't have a meeting with the lawyer the next day I would have been smurfed!

i mean even if you did have a parenting plan it could still happen

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mama Fia♥:</b>" i mean even if you did have a parenting plan it could still happen"</blockquote>




Right but then you could contact the authorities at least...

Quoting £egendary £ex:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mama Fia♥:</b>" i mean even if you did have a parenting ... [snip!] ... a parenting plan it could still happen"</blockquote> Right but then you could contact the authorities at least..."

true

I always thought if you were a single mother who was never married, you automatically had full custody rights.... At least thats how it is here... Or at least when I went to court for child support the DOR lawyers told me visitation was in my hands unless he went and filed for it.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Platypus:</b>" I always thought if you were a single mother who was never married, you automatically had full custody ... [snip!] ... when I went to court for child support the DOR lawyers told me visitation was in my hands unless he went and filed for it."</blockquote>




If you put his name on the birth certificate, he can legally keep the baby if there is no order in place.  

Quoting £egendary £ex:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Platypus:</b>" I always thought if you were a single mother ... [snip!] ... If you put his name on the birth certificate, he can legally keep the baby if there is no order in place.  "

I just double checked the laws for Massachusetts http://www.masslegalhelp.org/children-and-families/child-custody-and-visitation#4

"When the parents are not married to each other, the mother has sole legal and physical custody unless and until a court orders otherwise. This is so even if the father has formally acknowledged paternity."



OP, I would definitely check the laws for your state, and contact an attorney. I think thats totally unfair how some states say thats okay.. So that basically means a deadbeat could do that, and you would have to wait to go to court.. thats insane..

Quoting Platypus:" I always thought if you were a single mother who was never married, you automatically had full custody ... [snip!] ... when I went to court for child support the DOR lawyers told me visitation was in my hands unless he went and filed for it."

No not in all states..I happen to thik thats stupid anyways! But that happen to me also . In California if you were not married neither one of you have custody. My sons father took him out of state for 2 months. I try to tell everyone also. Get a custody order!

Ya here its the same even if you were once married. But here if you never go to custody court at all, no one has legal custody and its fair game to the children.

On BC or not it don't matter. Authority can't do anything about it, its not considered kidnapping unless a court order is in place already.

You do get full costody but the police don't do anything if the dad takes them with no parenting plan. If there's a parenting plan & the other parent tries to run off with the kids they get in trouble & don't get away with it. But I tried calling the police & they were just like sorry, he's on the birth certificate he can have him as long as he wants . & that was bc we didn't have. A parenting plan.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Platypus:</b>" I just double checked the laws for Massachusetts http://www.masslegalhelp.org/children-and-families ... [snip!] ... say thats okay.. So that basically means a deadbeat could do that, and you would have to wait to go to court.. thats insane.."</blockquote>




So even if he is on the BC? Not sure what exactly 'formally acknowledged paternity' entails

But maybe it isn't like that in all 50 states. I've heard too many stories though of it happening  

<blockquote><b>Quoting £egendary £ex:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Platypus:</b>" I just double checked the laws for Massachusetts ... [snip!] ... paternity' entails But maybe it isn't like that in all 50 states. I've heard too many stories though of it happening  "</blockquote>




In WA state I guess. My sons dad too a test from a Walgreens - sent it out & got it back a match- of corse. But the judge didn't care he was pissed at my sons dad for even thinking that he could take him. Paternity needs to be established by court before the daddy has any rights..in WA state.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Faith Newbauer:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting £egendary £ex:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Platypus:</b>" ... [snip!] ... even thinking that he could take him. Paternity needs to be established by court before the daddy has any rights..in WA state."</blockquote>




Isn't signing the bc acknowledging paternity...?

Quoting £egendary £ex:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Faith Newbauer:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting £egendary ... [snip!] ... by court before the daddy has any rights..in WA state."</blockquote> Isn't signing the bc acknowledging paternity...?"

Yes. Signing the BC is (in most states, not sure of all) acknowledging paternity of said child.

I agree with OP. at least with a signed and notarized parenting plan intact neither mother nor father can legally keep the child away from the other parent.

Agree...my ex and i went to court and set a time for puck up and drop off and if he is late i can call the sheriff and get my son back...that was my biggest fear:-(