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Newspaper releases gun owner info

posted 26th Dec
A newspaper released maps and personal info such as names and addresses of those licensed to carry firearms. What do you think of this? I know it's protected behind the freedom of information act, but doesn't this open up doors to criminals who want to get a gun illegally?


http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/25/us/new-york-gun-permit-map/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1

CNN) -- An interactive map showing the names and addresses of all handgun permit holders in New York's Westchester and Rockland counties has infuriated many readers since it was posted Saturday on a newspaper's website.
The map, published by The Journal News, allows readers to zoom in on red dots that indicate which residents are licensed to own pistols or revolvers. It had prompted more than 1,700 comments as of Wednesday morning.
Blue dots indicate permit holders who "have purchased a firearm or updated the information on a permit in the past five years."
"So should we start wearing yellow Stars of David so the general public can be aware of who we are??" one commenter wrote.
"This is crazy!" wrote another.

Some of those responding threatened to cancel their subscriptions or boycott the publication.
"I hope you lose readers now," one wrote.
The paper's publisher, Janet Hasson, president of the Journal News Media Group, defended the decision in a statement Wednesday.
"One of our roles is to report publicly available information on timely issues, even when unpopular. We knew publication of the database (as well as the accompanying article providing context) would be controversial, but we felt sharing information about gun permits in our area was important in the aftermath of the Newtown shootings," she said.
The newspaper also said it had wanted to publish even more information.
"We were surprised when we weren't able to obtain information on what kinds and how many weapons people in our market own," the newspaper said in a statement.
County clerks' offices had told the paper that "the public does not have the right to see specific permits an individual has been issued, the types of handguns a person possesses or the number of guns he or she owns," the statement said. "Had we been able to obtain those records, we would have published them."
The map came about in the wake of the massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, The Journal News said.
"In the past week, conversation on our opinion pages and on our website, LoHud.com, has been keenly focused on gun control," the newspaper's editor and vice president, CynDee Royle, said in a statement Tuesday.
The names and addresses of the two counties' permit-holding residents were obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. The website notes that the map does not indicate whether the residents own handguns, only that they are legally able to, and that the data do not pertain to rifles or shotguns, which can be bought without a permit.
Still, hundreds of residents were shocked to see their information posted without their being notified. Some said the map would prompt burglaries because thieves are now aware of where weapons might be found.
"Now everyone knows where the legal guns are kept, a valuable piece of information for criminals," a commenter wrote. "Why don't you do something helpful, like trying to find out where the illegal guns are kept?"
A search of the thousands of comments that CNN.com readers made about the story revealed only a few in support of the newspaper's map.
One commenter wrote: "If you're a gun owner it's a matter of public record. If you're embarrassed by your gun, get rid of it. I have a car and a house -- they're no secret. People contact me all the time trying to sell me stuff. I don't expect a right to privacy for these things."
Another wrote, "Every gun manufactured, transferred, and sold should be on the internet, all on one website, including date of purchase, current owner, stored location, and gun license number."
The Journal News argued that residents have a right to access information regarding weapon holders in Westchester and Rockland communities.
"Our readers are understandably interested to know about guns in their neighborhoods," Royle said in her statement.
In an article about the uproar, The Journal News says many of the thousands of people who "have taken to their computers and phones in rage" live outside the counties covered by the map.
In searching through hundreds of comments listed on the website, CNN did not immediately see any in support of the newspaper's decision to publish the interactive map.
The Journal News said it published an article in 2006 that received similar responses, but this time around, social media spread the story far and wide.
In 2007, roanoke.com, the website of The Roanoke Times, published a list of Virginians licensed to carry concealed weapons, and then deleted it the next day. The paper explained that the list, originally published as part of an opinion column, was removed "out of concern that it might include names that should not have been made public."
The Poynter Institute, a school for journalists, notes that some other news agencies have published various types of databases as well.
"Publishing gun owners' names makes them targets for theft or public ridicule. It is journalistic arrogance to abuse public record privilege, just as it is to air 911 calls for no reason or to publish the home addresses of police or judges without cause," Al Tompkins, a Poynter senior faculty member, said in a statement Wednesday. "Unwarranted publishing of the names of permitted owners just encourages gun owners to skip the permitting."
The paper said Royle was not available for interviews Wednesday.
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Arizona
posted 26th Dec
I think it more opens up all of the homes that are NOT armed to crime. I mean, seriously...if you were a criminal, which house would you burglarize? One that has a gun or one that doesn't? I think this newspaper was VERY irresponsible, and while what they did might not be illegal, it is certainly unethical....
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I have 4 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Ohio
posted 26th Dec
There's a fb post circulating last night that tells who gave permission to have the names n adds published n it has a pic of their house, address n phone number.
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I'm due June 3rd, have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Tennessee
posted 26th Dec
I told DH that if I wanted to rob someone, I'd now make sure they didn't have a gun.
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Indiana
posted 26th Dec
This is ridiculous. What exactly are they trying to accomplish here?
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I live in Georgia
posted 26th Dec
Quoting Spidermans♥Mommy:" I think it more opens up all of the homes that are NOT armed to crime. I mean, seriously...if you were ... [snip!] ... I think this newspaper was VERY irresponsible, and while what they did might not be illegal, it is certainly unethical...."


I also think it's extremely irresponsible. I never thought of the ones that weren't armed... good point.

I mean.. take the guy who shot up the school.... he tried to get a gun at Dick's Sporting Goods, and was unable to. Anyone else in that position would be able to look at the map and go find a gun if they wanted.
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Arizona
posted 26th Dec
Quoting Jas ♥:" This is ridiculous. What exactly are they trying to accomplish here?"

Who knows... I think maybe they were trying feebly to protect others, but what is that really going to prove? Owning a gun does not mean someone is going to commit murder.
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Arizona
posted 26th Dec
I myself am a registered pistol permit owner and my family in NY are pistol permit owners. We all own several pistols and firearms. I myself and my family included are very upset over the releasing of names and addresses. Why release that personal information? We have done NOTHING wrong. We are law abiding citizens that obtained our guns legaly. The ONLY thing this article will do is insite fear and the permit owners will be targeted negativly.
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I have 1 child & live in Connecticut
posted 26th Dec
Quoting Sydney Nic0le:" I myself am a registered pistol permit owner and my family in NY are pistol permit owners. We all own ... [snip!] ... obtained our guns legaly. The ONLY thing this article will do is insite fear and the permit owners will be targeted negativly. "

Completely agree.
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Arizona
posted 26th Dec
Quoting Spidermans♥Mommy:" I think it more opens up all of the homes that are NOT armed to crime. I mean, seriously...if you were ... [snip!] ... I think this newspaper was VERY irresponsible, and while what they did might not be illegal, it is certainly unethical...."

This! They just made every house without a gun an easy target
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Texas
posted 26th Dec
Quoting Sydney Nic0le:" I myself am a registered pistol permit owner and my family in NY are pistol permit owners. We all own ... [snip!] ... obtained our guns legaly. The ONLY thing this article will do is insite fear and the permit owners will be targeted negativly. "

agreed entirely.
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in Indiana
posted 26th Dec
Well now when a criminal wants a gun he knows what houses to rob. SMH
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I have 4 kids & live in Keenesburg, Colorado
posted 26th Dec
Wow! I'm not one to promote a boycott, but i think that newspaper deserves to die.
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I have 1 child & live in Pennsylvania
posted 26th Dec
That's crazy the amount of people that owns handguns. Glad I don't live there...
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I have 2 kids & live in Cold Lake, Alberta
posted 26th Dec
Quoting Kayla [ ]♥:" That's crazy the amount of people that owns handguns. Glad I don't live there..."

Really? What a crappy thing to say.
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I have 2 kids & 2 angel babies & live in Arizona
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