re: "Santa is NOT real!"

Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Jude the Super Kinkster:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... some people believe in magical elephants and trees, it's whatever, You don't raise kids to smurf with other people's beliefs."

Why should my little sister be forced to lie when she has santa shoved down her throat at every instance? There is a general double standard in that I have noticed. In that she is expected to keep her mouth shut, and go along, but parents pitch the bitch when she pipes up she doesn't believe.

Quoting EnnaBennaBanana:" We don't do santa here, but only because we make Christmas more about Jesus. I was raised the same and ... [snip!] ... her santa isn't real until you two come to an agreement. She's small now so you have awhile to decide.. talk to him about it.. "

*rolls eyes*

Quoting MysticWitchKat:" Why should my little sister be forced to lie when she has santa shoved down her throat at every instance? ... [snip!] ... that she is expected to keep her mouth shut, and go along, but parents pitch the bitch when she pipes up she doesn't believe."

Yeah, she should keep her mouth shut. You said it perfectly.

Quoting MysticWitchKat:" *rolls eyes*"

Why the rolling of eyes? That was quite rude.
I was offering advice.. I'm sorry you get botherd easily.

Lie to your child. Please, do. It's for a greater good.
You will make their childhood so special and full of memories of this magical Santa.
Anyways, what is childhood but a dream world, full of fantasy and fairytale?

Sincerely,
every child whose parents let them believe.

Quoting MysticWitchKat:" Why should my little sister be forced to lie when she has santa shoved down her throat at every instance? ... [snip!] ... that she is expected to keep her mouth shut, and go along, but parents pitch the bitch when she pipes up she doesn't believe."

I don't think she should be forced to lie. I also think she needs to be aware though that other people do believe. As long as that is done, I think it is fine. If others are allowed ot speak their beliefs so is she. That is as silly as saying a Hindu child shouldn't speak about not believing in Jesus just because that child lives in a culture that is predominantly Christian. It is MY job, if I want to teach my child Santa is real, to also let them known not all people believe that & that is okay.

Quoting ♥ inês:" Lie to your child. Please, do. It's for a greater good. You will make their childhood so special and ... [snip!] ... what is childhood but a dream world, full of fantasy and fairytale? Sincerely, every child whose parents let them believe."

Hahahaha. My daughter and many others are not missing out on their childhoods because they don't believe in Santa Claus (or celebrate the birth of Jesus). Every single one of the kindergartners in her class will tell you he isn't logical because as a group of parents, we decided to let them decide if the fat man in the red suit is real or fake. They spent an hour or so in class discussing the possibility of flying reindeer and home invasion through a chimney, and none of them after that discussion believed.

Quoting ♥ inês:" Lie to your child. Please, do. It's for a greater good. You will make their childhood so special and ... [snip!] ... what is childhood but a dream world, full of fantasy and fairytale? Sincerely, every child whose parents let them believe."

Uh, my SO is against Santa and his parents let him believe.

I have a lot of mixed feelings about this...

We don't do any of the naughty/nice things, but DD does talk about Santa, and wants to leave him cookies.

I'm not Religious, I do enjoy the holidays, though. If she asks questions, I won't lie to her. I understand the argument against it. I do.

But it really chaps my butt when you're viewed as an awful and deceitful parent if you let Santa happen. (I also really hate the argument that parents do all the work, and then someone else gets the credit for the hard work they've put in all year to buy presents, blah blah... I don't need credit for giving DD things to entertain and learn from. That's my job as a parent. And if she was unappreciative, or if she whines and cries for something, she damn well knows she's not going to get it. And that has nothing to do with Santa.)

<blockquote><b>Quoting ♥ inês:</b>" Lie to your child. Please, do. It's for a greater good. You will make their childhood so special and ... [snip!] ... what is childhood but a dream world, full of fantasy and fairytale? Sincerely, every child whose parents let them believe."</blockquote>


You need to stay out of D and D with your illogical self. Im 100% sure youve been told this already.

<blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♥ inês:</b>" Lie to your child. Please, do. It's for a ... [snip!] ... You need to stay out of D and D with your illogical self. Im 100% sure youve been told this already."</blockquote>




Lol what was that even? That surely didn't help my side any more than it hurt yours.

Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♥ inês:</b>" Lie to your child. Please, do. It's for a ... [snip!] ... You need to stay out of D and D with your illogical self. Im 100% sure youve been told this already."

oh please, and who the hell are YOU to tell me such thing? This is a free place, honey.   What is illogical to you might be logical to me. My opinion is my opinion. I don't care. You seem to LOVE problems and make them out of every comment. oh cmmon. Learn what the word respect means, please.  

Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... told this already."</blockquote> Lol what was that even? That surely didn't help my side any more than it hurt yours."

IKR? It's like WTF?

Quoting ♥ inês:" oh please, and who the hell are YOU to tell me such thing? This is a free place, honey.   What is illogical ... [snip!] ... care. You seem to LOVE problems and make them out of every comment. oh cmmon. Learn what the word respect means, please.  "

Who am I? Oh no one, just an OG who hates to see n00bs mucking up D and D with bullsmurf. You give me no reason to respect you when you come here spouting nonsense instead of logical arguement or discussion. You contribute nothing to this discussion... why would I respect you? You're a little girl trying to argue with adults without basis or merit.

Definition of logic: sensible argument and thought: sensible rational thought and argument rather than ideas that are influenced by emotion or whim


You, m'dear, spouted off some illogical nonsense spawned by whim and emotion. Not logical argument. Not logical thought. It's illogical to assume that a child's imagination is hampered by knowing what is real and not real. It's illogical to assume that a child will have no concept of magic and fantasy just because one set of beliefs are chosen over another. Your argument is illogical to anyone true to the definition (or has at least half a brain).

My mom never told us that Santa was real but I also never believed in him. She didn't go out of her way to make us believe. She just signed some presents from Santa, but we were really smart kids and actually always thought it was fake. It wasn't mean, my childhood was not robbed because I didn't believe in Santa.

I plan to tell my kids ABOUT Santa but not that he is a real person who flies around the world in one night. I will let them play along. We never set cookies out or anything like that when I was a kid. I always knew the presents were from my mom. Personally I would rather my kids not allow some imaginary person to take credit for MY hard work. I want them to know their parents work hard and that they need to appreciate that. I'll still let them play along, but they're going to know that it's just for fun and not real.