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re: "Santa is NOT real!"

posted 14th Dec
My SO said the same thing while i was pregnant. I think he was joking,because lately he's been talking to LO about santa coming. Hopefully he will come around like mine did.
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I have 1 child & live in Memphis, Tennessee
posted 14th Dec
Eh, no magic and innocence is lost when kids don't believe. DD is learning logic in school, so she is the one that tells us the fat man in the sleigh is not logical. We never taught her one way or the other and we don't do Christmas at all.
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I have 1 child & live in Fort Sill, Oklahoma
posted 15th Dec
We don't do Santa either further than he's a cartoon character and it's fun to pretend. I don't feel comfortable with it because it was not part of my beliefs growing up and it feels wrong to tell my children that some fat dude is breaking into our home, leaving "presents", and eating our food. My son enjoys the story of Santa and we try to teach him the magic of giving and family during the holidays. I doubt he thinks he's missing anything.
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I have 2 kids & 4 angel babies & live in Clearlake, California
posted 15th Dec
I will tell my daughter the LEGEND OF SANTA, just like im going to tell her the legend of unicorns, faeries, and the loch ness monster, but will i be telling her that he is real, even if i know he is not? No.

I will let her believe what she chooses to believe. Just like mommy believes in unicorns and dragons.

She can have her opinion, and i will tell her mine. That is all. If she wants to believe in a little Christmas magic, let her.
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I'm due October 21st, have 1 child & live in Columbus, Ohio
posted 16th Dec
Quoting May ♥:" Ugh. So ever since I was pregnant SO has said that he would tell DD that Santa isn't real. He says "It's ... [snip!] ... best things about childhood and I don't want her to miss out because her dad is being a stubborn ass. Don't know what to do..."

I'd leave that piece of smurf no doubt. No smurfs given about what anyone thinks of that.

My daughter LOVES the magical idea of Santa, I would tell him to get the smurf out of my house and come back in February.
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I have 1 child & live in Beverly Hills, California
posted 16th Dec
<blockquote><b>Quoting Legendary Amanda:</b>" I'd leave that piece of smurf no doubt. No smurfs given about what anyone thinks of that. My daughter ... [snip!] ... My daughter LOVES the magical idea of Santa, I would tell him to get the smurf out of my house and come back in February. "</blockquote>

Leave him over Santa? Even if he were real, he is a creeper. It's a fat, old, white man that breaks into your house in the middle of the night and eats your cookies and leaves you smurf.
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I have 1 child & live in Fort Sill, Oklahoma
posted 16th Dec
<blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Legendary Amanda:</b>" I'd leave that piece of smurf no doubt. ... [snip!] ... It's a fat, old, white man that breaks into your house in the middle of the night and eats your cookies and leaves you smurf."</blockquote>




Well honestly I think this is something that would come up before I had kids with him, you know like "hey, do you like when kids are happy and imaginative?" And he's like "no, I smurfing hate the joy of children and will purposely ruin it for my children." And then the pussy shop would just be closed up for him.
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I have 1 child & live in Beverly Hills, California
posted 16th Dec
<blockquote><b>Quoting Legendary Amanda:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Legendary Amanda:</b>" ... [snip!] ... hate the joy of children and will purposely ruin it for my children." And then the pussy shop would just be closed up for him."</blockquote>




That's a little extreme. Plenty of people don't teach their kids about Santa.   What about Jewish parents?
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I live in Maine
posted 16th Dec
<blockquote><b>Quoting Jude the Super Kinkster:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Legendary Amanda:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" ... [snip!] ... That's a little extreme. Plenty of people don't teach their kids about Santa.   What about Jewish parents?"</blockquote>



Lol for sure it is. I'm mostly just messing with you guys. But realistically I think this is a conversation that should have been had Pre-pregnancy. If some little jack ass tells my daughter Santa isn't real then his/her parents are going to have some issues.

It's just common courtesy that you teach kids not to spread their beliefs or lack thereof. Just like I tell my daughter some people don't believe in Santa and that's okay, some people believe in magical elephants and trees, it's whatever,

You don't raise kids to smurf with other people's beliefs.
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I have 1 child & live in Beverly Hills, California
posted 16th Dec
<blockquote><b>Quoting Legendary Amanda:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Jude the Super Kinkster:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... some people believe in magical elephants and trees, it's whatever, You don't raise kids to smurf with other people's beliefs."</blockquote>




If she believes no one telling her will otherwise will change tbat. My brother is 11 and still believes despite everyone at school teasing him. Why? Because he still gets what he wants.every year.
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I live in Maine
posted 16th Dec
<blockquote><b>Quoting Jude the Super Kinkster:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Legendary Amanda:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Jude ... [snip!] ... brother is 11 and still believes despite everyone at school teasing him. Why? Because he still gets what he wants.every year."</blockquote>



That's awesome that you have such a strong minded brother, not all kids are like that though. Even just being told could at least provoke doubt.
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I have 1 child & live in Beverly Hills, California
posted 16th Dec
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Jude the Super Kinkster:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... some people believe in magical elephants and trees, it's whatever, You don't raise kids to smurf with other people's beliefs."



I think it's a slippery slope when it comes to Santa. People get so wrapped up that they forget that others have different beliefs and then get pissed when their child is exposed to diversity. I've taught Will that Santa's pretend but some children think he's real. Will was asked this year what Santa was going to bring for him. Will told the child who asked "Mommy and Daddy buy me gifts, not Santa". He didn't say that Santa wasn't real but it sparked enough doubt for the other child that we had a problem with the parent who never taught their child that others don't celebrate that way. Most people don't understand that it's their responsibility to teach their children that others are different.
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I have 2 kids & 4 angel babies & live in Clearlake, California
posted 16th Dec
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Jude the Super Kinkster:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... some people believe in magical elephants and trees, it's whatever, You don't raise kids to smurf with other people's beliefs."

So, if after Christmas, your daughter asked some other kid what Santa brought them, you would expect that kid to lie to your kid...to perpetuate the lie?
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I have 1 child & live in California
posted 16th Dec
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" So, if after Christmas, your daughter asked some other kid what Santa brought them, you would expect that kid to lie to your kid...to perpetuate the lie?"

No I'd expect him to say "We don't believe in Santa" or "We don't celebrate Christmas" or "My mommy and daddy bring me gifts not Santa"

I would never tell my child that anything isn't real, God, Santa, Karma, or whatever else people believe in. I tell her "We don't celebrate that" or "We don't believe in that" I would never, ever, ever say "That isn't real" and I would flip my smurf if she told another child something they believed in wasn't real.
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I have 1 child & live in Beverly Hills, California
posted 16th Dec
Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:" I think it's a slippery slope when it comes to Santa. People get so wrapped up that they forget that ... [snip!] ... that way. Most people don't understand that it's their responsibility to teach their children that others are different."

It's not just Santa, it's beliefs in general. People get wrapped up in insisting what their child and their households are going to believe in and forget to respect the rest of society. My daughter is four years old, If I tell her "God isn't real but shh, don't say that to other kids" she's going to, so anything I don't believe in I tell her "We don't celebrate/believe that, but many people do." NOT "That's not real."
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I have 1 child & live in Beverly Hills, California
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