Home is where Religion should be the most abundant, its not the teaches job to teach children about religion, or belifies.
I voted no, Im pagan I would be pretty offended if they had bibles in school

Quoting ¡VinHautℰ!:" The bible isn't something to crack into at school. That should be for at home, with your parents, or at church."

Im an English teacher and I'd love to have a "Bible as Literature" class. Not the "Oh what is God saying in this line?" No.... it more as looking at a collection of stories and discussing the rich imagery, verbiage, etc... it really is a great book and can be discussed without religious aspects. But a bible as religion class... hey if it's an elective class I dont care, but only as elective. Teaching kids WHAT to think in a religion should not be allowed. Teaching kids HOW to think about a religion (and the beliefs thereof) should be allowed, and encouraged.

Hell yes! My daughter goes to a religious affiliated preschool. Values and morals are taught as the daily curriculum. Many parents don't have time to or care to teach their children morals and values.

IMO a world religion class should be required in middle school so children can start to create their own morals and beliefs. Im sick of all the smurfs under age 12..

<blockquote><b>Quoting Had my 10/10/10 baby!:</b>" Hell yes! My daughter goes to a religious affiliated preschool. Values and morals are taught a as the ... [snip!] ... in middle school so children can start to create their own morals and beliefs. Im sick of all the smurfs under age 12.."</blockquote>




Me and my ex went to private schools, we both did our sacrements, and went to church Friday at school, and sundays with fam, I ended up in jail with intent to sell, he ended up in prison for firearms... my son goes to a catholic school now, I dance and bartend to pay his tuition o.O... religion has nothing to with choices we make when we *grow up* I've always had a strong faith in god... but smurf happens...

Quoting FroggysMommy:" Im an English teacher and I'd love to have a "Bible as Literature" class. Not the "Oh what is God saying ... [snip!] ... should not be allowed. Teaching kids HOW to think about a religion (and the beliefs thereof) should be allowed, and encouraged."

I largely agree with you here, but not so much as it would be applied to primary education. I think religious studies are great, but if we offer one on the bible then that opens the door to require umpteen other religions/books which sounds like a potential mess. For that reason only (equal representation, essentially) I'm opposed to religious affiliated curriculum in public schools.

There's a huge difference though.
School is where young minds go to be taught and where they are supposed to respect their teachers and accept (for the most part) what they are told to be true. They also go home everyday where their guardians can decide whether or not what they are being taught in school is acceptable or not. Also the idea of the bible in school is that it would be taught, which means the children have no choice but to listen.

Prison is where older more mature (arguable, but still) minds go to serve time for their illegal actions. They are adults (not counting juvie) and therefore can decide what they will read and will not be reprimanded for refusing to believe in the Bible. Also the Bible being encouraged isn't the same as ok now you have to sit in Bible class right after your yard time to learn about Jesus.

It would be different if instead of Bible class there was a Religions class where you learnt about all religions. I have a feelings that some of the hardcore followers of the Bible would all of a sudden NOT be ok with religion in school if their kids were being forced to learn about other religions as well.

<blockquote><b>Quoting DeanJade&Maksims Momma:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Had my 10/10/10 baby!:</b>" Hell yes! My daughter goes to a ... [snip!] ... religion has nothing to with choices we make when we *grow up* I've always had a strong faith in god... but smurf happens..."</blockquote>



True that. I wasn't saying any one religion. I liked taking a world religions class. It helped me get my morals in check. And I think it's a good way to expand the young minds to view ideas and beliefs with an open mind.

Shoving religion down someone's throat tends to make them rebellious:

<blockquote><b>Quoting Had my 10/10/10 baby!:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting DeanJade&Maksims Momma:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... young minds to view ideas and beliefs with an open mind. Shoving religion down someone's throat tends to make them rebellious:"</blockquote>




It was never shoved down my throat... when I was a teen I stopped wanting to go, my mom let me... I've had periods where I go back and forth... I feel better when I'm attending regularly but dosnt make a difference when I decide to do something... I've graduated with 2 college degrees and wet to church regularly, and still sold drugs lol

Quoting ¡VinHautℰ!:" I largely agree with you here, but not so much as it would be applied to primary education. I think ... [snip!] ... For that reason only (equal representation, essentially) I'm opposed to religious affiliated curriculum in public schools."

That's why I think it should be an elective only class, so you don't have to do every other religious text. But if someone had a great grasp on a variety of religious texts it would be seriously cool to have a debate class on the way the world religions view those issues. Or a religions "story" class. That's what I want to do... Pick a couple "stories" from a variety of religions and dissect them as great stories and discuss how religion AND society views those stories. For example... the apocalypse. The end of the world is looked at in so many different ways. I could have a unit on "end of the world" and read stories from each religion and discuss the text as a story, not a way of life. And since it's elective I don't need to show every religion of the world to be "fair," instead... I show the major religions with some obscure ones in there.

I taught a very controversial poetry class and it was great. I also made The Hunger Games controversial. We would read the book and then discuss issues like sex, religion, poverty, hunger, etc... in the hunger games and real world.

I like pushing barriers with my teaching... I just do it in a way that doesn't hurt anyone. Or piss off a parent ;)

so....no.

The OP is obscene. There is more immorality than morality in the Bible, and Christians employ moral relativism to make it all appear "moral".

Besides, if reading the Bible imparted special morality from on high, then the US prison system wouldn't be such a revolving door for repeat offenders.

The way I see it, if my kid has to learn your religion your kids should have to kesrn mine.

Quoting The (super kinky) Master:" The way I see it, if my kid has to learn your religion your kids should have to kesrn mine."

I want to kesrn yours What does that entail? ;)

<blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" I want to kesrn yours What does that entail? ;)"</blockquote>




Its not hard. Im Norse Paganist centering mostly on the afterlife and the Gods and Goddesses connection to the Earth. I also have a lot of my belief system coming from Druidic spirituality.

Quoting The (super kinky) Master:" <blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" I want to kesrn yours What does that entail? ... [snip!] ... and the Gods and Goddesses connection to the Earth. I also have a lot of my belief system coming from Druidic spirituality."

Okay does Norse Paganism center mostly on the afterlife in general? I wasn't sure how to read that if that is where your interest lies or if that is part of that belief system.

And BTW - is there a spirituality thread here somewhere that mommas discuss this stuff & answer questions?