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Breastfeeding problems

posted 8th Dec
So Sebastian just got weighed, and he's 6lbs 9oz...he was born on the 5th weighing 7lbs 4oz. The nurse told me that if he loses anymore, that he's going to have to stay here for a while because he'd have lost 10% (or more) of his weight. I would be discharged, but he would still be here...I would be a stay-in mom.
Plus my milk completely stopped coming in...my clostorom was coming in good before I was pregnant, and was good the first day and a halfish I guess. But all day today/yesterday (the 7th) he was nursing continuously and now we know it's because I have almost nothing coming out. I just pumped for 10 minutes...after sleeping for a couple hours...and there was nothing. The nurse says that she would expect this from a mom would had just delivered...not one whose baby was almost 3 days old.

I'm terrified right now...I don't care if he gets the nutrition from breastmilk or formula as long as he gets i...but he's not getting it unless he "nurses" on my breast and we pump some formula into his mouth with a little tube and sringe contraption  


Anyone have any words of wisdom or anything like that? I don't know what to do at all
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I have 1 child & live in Shelton, Washington
posted 8th Dec
Quoting justplainme93:" So Sebastian just got weighed, and he's 6lbs 9oz...he was born on the 5th weighing 7lbs 4oz. The nurse ... [snip!] ... a little tube and sringe contraption   Anyone have any words of wisdom or anything like that? I don't know what to do at all"
Your nurse is an idiot. 3 days in this IS normal. KEEP nursing. If you are trying to express, a pump is a terrible way to do it with colostrum. Most moms can't get anything out. You can try hand expressing & that works far better for most, but still expect quantities to be small. Up to about 10% is very very normal in breastfed infants - not a reason to stress you out. Just relax, offer the boob, and let him do his business. Your milk should be coming in ANY time. This kind of BS is why I checked out within 24 hrs when I had my 2nd. They get all in a huff over very normal stuff & worry you for no good reason. AND just FYI - if labor was fairly long & you were given IV fluids, your baby's weigh twas puffed up with water weight at birth. So the first few ounces they loose after that isnt' *really* loosing weight - it's getting rid of water. They've shown this over & over when comparing babies from moms who did & didn't have IV"s. IV babies are on average a few ounes heavier & loose a few more ounces after birth. it's all quite normal momma & you are doing FINE! I had a SUPER long labor with my babies & with #1 he lost over 10% & then turned around & doubled birthweight (EBF) before 8 weeks. You WILL catch up. Don't let them get you rattled.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21843338
Here is a study you can show your nurse that weight should be done at 24hrs post birth when IV fluids are used - NOT at birth & weight loss recordings should be based on THAT.

I am sorry you are feeling stressed momma. It will all be fine, just roll with it & you AND BABY will be home soon!
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I have 2 kids & 8 angel babies & live in Climax, Michigan
posted 8th Dec
<blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" Your nurse is an idiot. 3 days in this IS normal. KEEP nursing. If you are trying to express, a pump ... [snip!] ... THAT. I am sorry you are feeling stressed momma. It will all be fine, just roll with it & you AND BABY will be home soon!"</blockquote>




 
All of this. My daughter lost 11oz which was 9.6% of her weight and they even sent someone out on Christmas Day to weigh her again (born 21st). After the initial loss they just start gaining, and are usually up to their birth weight again by day 14-21.
Don't pump, just have him on the breast as much as you can. Your milk will come in soon, mine was day 5 but 3-7 is 'normal'.
Keep at it, don't let them scare you. You're giving him the BEST.
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I have 1 child & live in United Kingdom
posted 8th Dec
Keep nursing and pumping! My baby had to go to nicu and it felt like forever for my milk to come in! It didn't actually start to really come in till day 4 or 5. Your nurse either is confused, or just doesn't know anything. I found the later I those two to be the case most often with our nurses. Your milk will come in! Just keep at it! I was always told if you start feeling really emotional it's a sign your milk is coming in. Congratulations on your son's birth. Don't stress out too much. It will happen just relax. I know it's hard to do but relaxing really does help.
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I have 1 child & live in Greenville, South Carolina
posted 8th Dec
Quoting justanothamotha:" Your nurse is an idiot. 3 days in this IS normal. KEEP nursing. If you are trying to express, a pump ... [snip!] ... THAT. I am sorry you are feeling stressed momma. It will all be fine, just roll with it & you AND BABY will be home soon!"
She's trying the pump expressing because nothing comes out even via hand expressing. I'm fine with him getting breastmilk via bottle and pump...I was just hoping to give him breast milk since it's so much better for him.
He's not getting enough food...he's been crying and fussing and literally nursing for hours at a time with a 15 minute break...then wanting to do it more. I was induced on the 5th and ended up having to have a c-section because he wasn't moving and I wasn't dilating past 6cm. He wasn't very big when he was born, and he's lost almost a pound since then...so they just don't want him to lose too much or get sick...
He was 5 days past due when they induced me...so they all kind of expected my milk to be in a little faster
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I have 1 child & live in Shelton, Washington
posted 8th Dec
<blockquote><b>Quoting justplainme93:</b>" She's trying the pump expressing because nothing comes out even via hand expressing. I'm fine with him ... [snip!] ... or get sick... He was 5 days past due when they induced me...so they all kind of expected my milk to be in a little faster"</blockquote>




Nothing came out for me either until day 4 or 5. I had to pump to. Honestly I felt it helped apparently you aren't supposed to. I always preferred that DD get my breast milk instead of formula and pumping was my only option. Im happy I did it.
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I have 1 child & live in Greenville, South Carolina
posted 8th Dec
Your nurse sounds very uneducated to me. Don't ever compare what you pump to what you make. I breastfed one for 2 1/2 years and my five day old is now breastfeeding, too, and I have never been able to pump anywhere near what I make. And at three days your milk may not necessarily be in, though you should be expecting it soon. It's when my milk came in with both pregnancies. The weight loss is a good bit but it's also totally normal. He'll pick it up again soon enough. Just keep nursing.
Good luck!
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in New York
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posted 8th Dec
The best thing to do would hand express and syringe feed. I had to do that with my babies for the first cpl of days
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I'm due July 4th, have 2 kids & live in Australia
posted 8th Dec
Quoting justplainme93:" She's trying the pump expressing because nothing comes out even via hand expressing. I'm fine with him ... [snip!] ... or get sick... He was 5 days past due when they induced me...so they all kind of expected my milk to be in a little faster"

To my knowledge, gestation doesn't have any impact on when your milk comes in (though I could be wrong). My milk came in three days in with both my children and one was born at 40w5d and the other 38w2d.
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I have 2 kids & 1 angel baby & live in New York
posted 8th Dec
Quoting justplainme93:" She's trying the pump expressing because nothing comes out even via hand expressing. I'm fine with him ... [snip!] ... or get sick... He was 5 days past due when they induced me...so they all kind of expected my milk to be in a little faster"

I get it - but I had a 73+ hrs labor, he tore through my rectum, broke my tailbone & I got no milk in until day 7. I am not saying "Starve him" - I am saying all his nursing does NOT mean your milk isn't enough. Mine nursed sometimes for 4 hrs at a time & then 20 mins later cue to nurse again. It was overwhelming to me (feeling a tad touched out) but not an indication of a problem. Is he pooping & peeing? he should have one wet dipe per day for how many days old he is (until around day 5 & then they average out to 4-6 per day) and he should be starting to get over his tarry stools & have it turn yellow & mustardy. If he is still tarry at 4 days, then he may need more input for sure - as it should start to get out of his system by then.

Anyway - SORRY I forgot to post the link on hand expressing:

Try watching that & then see if it helps. I could never hand express a drop until I watched it.

I am not sure why they expected your milk to be in faster based on due date. 3-4 days in average no matter when your baby was due.

I AM sorry again like I said this is all been such a stress on you. Doe syour hosital have an IBCLC (Internationally Board Certified Lactation Consultant). It really is an entirely different accreditation with MUCH more training than your average LC has. If you can, ask them to see if there is one on staff & if you can see her.
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I have 2 kids & 8 angel babies & live in Climax, Michigan
posted 8th Dec
Quoting kate & tilly:" Keep nursing and pumping! My baby had to go to nicu and it felt like forever for my milk to come in! ... [snip!] ... your son's birth. Don't stress out too much. It will happen just relax. I know it's hard to do but relaxing really does help."
They thought it would come in faster since I was past due and stuff...but nada. I'm not super emotional right now...I am exhausted all the time. I kind of have little mini pass out sessions if I don't move. I close my eyes to do something and then I start dosing off in a matter of seconds. It's really annoying.
Thanks, he is the sweetest, most amazing thing to ever happen to me. I love him so much
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I have 1 child & live in Shelton, Washington
posted 8th Dec
Quoting Sofia's Mummy♥:" <blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" Your nurse is an idiot. 3 days in this ... [snip!] ... milk will come in soon, mine was day 5 but 3-7 is 'normal'. Keep at it, don't let them scare you. You're giving him the BEST."
I'm not being scared away from it...I just would rather him get breast milk from my breast, but if that's not in the cards right now, then so be it. If he gets it from it being pumped then he'll have to deal with that. I'm not going to let my baby be hungry an starve because I'm too proud to give him nutrition. I just have no idea what I'm doing and don't really have anyone I can ask about breastfeeing
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I have 1 child & live in Shelton, Washington
posted 8th Dec
Quoting justplainme93:" I'm not being scared away from it...I just would rather him get breast milk from my breast, but if that's ... [snip!] ... too proud to give him nutrition. I just have no idea what I'm doing and don't really have anyone I can ask about breastfeeing"
I don't think anyone is "too proud" to give a baby nutrition   & if they are they should give that baby away to a sane person.   That's assinine.

I am sorry you don't have anyone to ask about breastfeeding. I didn't really either. Our hospital didn't have an IBCLC, but I was able to get help & support thorough La Leche & they were wonderful & without them I'd never have made it. You can always call 1-877-4la-leche (24/7) & they can help via the phone as well as put you in touch with local help & support - and it's all fact based, research backed support & info - so you can trust what they tell you is solid.

Best wishes!
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I have 2 kids & 8 angel babies & live in Climax, Michigan
posted 8th Dec
<blockquote><b>Quoting justplainme93:</b>" They thought it would come in faster since I was past due and stuff...but nada. I'm not super emotional ... [snip!] ... of seconds. It's really annoying. Thanks, he is the sweetest, most amazing thing to ever happen to me. I love him so much"</blockquote>




I've never heard that your milk should come in faster if your past due before. But I'm sure it's on it's way. Especially I you're feeling emotional I cried nonstop about everything and everyone kept telling me it was good and meant my milk was coming in. I know exactly what you mean about being tired as do most moms. Are you sleeping when baby is sleeping? If you have to pump and syringe or bottle feed right now it's ok he's still getting breast milk. My baby was force fed formula and she had no nipple confusion. She has been exclusively breastfed since 1 month old and she's 9 months now.
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I have 1 child & live in Greenville, South Carolina
posted 8th Dec
Quoting Mom2William&Michael:" Your nurse sounds very uneducated to me. Don't ever compare what you pump to what you make. I breastfed ... [snip!] ... The weight loss is a good bit but it's also totally normal. He'll pick it up again soon enough. Just keep nursing. Good luck!"
They're worried about the weight loss because he barely weighed 7lbs in the first place, and he's 21 inches long...they don't want him losing too much. And seeing as how I don't have anything at all coming out (via hand expressing, pumping, and as far as we can tell him nursing) they're trying to nip it in the bud however they can.
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I have 1 child & live in Shelton, Washington
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