re: Abstinence Education vs. Sex Education.

<blockquote><b>Quoting ❥ Meℓi:</b>" The dude who is for Abstinence Education is trying to say "They are going to end up with broken hearts if they just go out & have sex with whoever they want because they are given condoms.""</blockquote>




Giving someone condoms will not force anyone to go have sex  

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" Broken hearts are much worse when you are sleeping with someone, for the most part. The physical act ... [snip!] ... many can shut themselves off emotionally. There are exceptions to that rule, but sex is a bonding experience like no other."</blockquote>




Wrong

Quoting £egendary £ex:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ❥ Meℓi:</b>" The dude who is for Abstinence Education ... [snip!] ... want because they are given condoms.""</blockquote> Giving someone condoms will not force anyone to go have sex  "

Actually studies have shown in schools where condoms are available to students, lower rates of sexual activity among its students.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" Both, of course. I am going to teach them in tandem. The ONLY way to ensure not getting pregnant or ... [snip!] ... of sex by focusing on all of the negative aspects of it. I will NOT "okay" sex before marriage. I will teach that it is wrong."

So you still have a "Old school" view of No sex before marriage? That is cool, but it doesn't really work like that these days.

Quoting ❥ Meℓi:" So you still have a "Old school" view of No sex before marriage? That is cool, but it doesn't really work like that these days."

 

Quoting TantricLemons:" the physical act of sex is meant for reproduction. The human race does not mate for life. If we did ... [snip!] ... you don't see many single penguins, where in humans it is decently common. Most people have had more than one sexual partner."

Oxytocin is released during childbirth, breastfeeding AND sex. Obviously, this applies to women only.

Neuroscientists have discovered that women bond at a hormonal level during all three of these events.

We aren't animals that act upon physical urges, only. We have the ability to reason. Sex doesn't have to by some animalistic urge that we, as humans, cannot control.

We don't eat our sick babies or leave them to die, either.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" Oxytocin is released during childbirth, breastfeeding AND sex. Obviously, this applies to women only. ... [snip!] ... to by some animalistic urge that we, as humans, cannot control. We don't eat our sick babies or leave them to die, either."

So if you are going by that logic the purpose of breastfeeding is for bonding? And the purpose of child birth is for bonding?

Because I am pretty sure the purpose of breastfeeding is to keep mammals alive until they can feed themselves. You CAN say the purpose of oxytocin during breastfeeding is to further the species (by making breastfeeding more appealing for mammals). Which is the same for the "bond" that happens during sex, it is to make reproduction more attractive. However the purpose remains reproduction,

Quoting ❥ Meℓi:" So you still have a "Old school" view of No sex before marriage? That is cool, but it doesn't really work like that these days."

Yup. I am "old school" about sex. I am currently a widow who is in an abstinent, semi-serious relationship. I will not have sex with anyone that I am not married to.

I realize that sex is a free for all, these days, but does that mean I shouldn't teach what I think is moral? Of course not.

Quoting TantricLemons:" So if you are going by that logic the purpose of breastfeeding is for bonding? And the purpose of child ... [snip!] ... for the "bond" that happens during sex, it is to make reproduction more attractive. However the purpose remains reproduction,"

You are negating emotion in all of your responses.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" Yup. I am "old school" about sex. I am currently a widow who is in an abstinent, semi-serious relationship. ... [snip!] ... I realize that sex is a free for all, these days, but does that mean I shouldn't teach what I think is moral? Of course not."

If your 16 year old unmarried daughter came to you and asked to be put in birth control because she was she was sexually active, would you take her to get birth control? Just curious.

Also, I said that I would teach both, in tandem. Realism is important, of course.

Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" You are negating emotion in all of your responses."

Science is pretty awesome like that. It focuses on reality, rather than emotion. The purpose of sex is reproduction. Humans would not be a successful species if the purpose of sex was to form a bond.

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" You are negating emotion in all of your responses."</blockquote>




Duh. The sole purpose of breastfeeding is feeding your kid.

The abstinence thing doesn't work anymore. Years and years ago it did. I wish it worked now. But times have changed. Too much sex on TV and in songs. (I know, cliche.) And the demographic keeps getting younger. Sex education is more effective IMO.

Quoting Rafael's Mommy ♥:" If your 16 year old unmarried daughter came to you and asked to be put in birth control because she was she was sexually active, would you take her to get birth control? Just curious."

I've said twice now that I would teach both.

Not sure what your question has to do with this debate...but yes, I would. By the time she's sixteen, she is making many of her own choices...and mistakes. I would want to protect her from herself.