Chemical Pregnancies

posted 4th Dec

No, but only because I don't call my miscarriages "angel babies..." I don't care if others do, whatever helps you cope... it's just weird to me.

I have 2 kids & live in Cold Lake, Alberta

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Bettinas

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posted 4th Dec

<blockquote>Quoting Raindancer:" Last I checked, according to law it seems, all a baby is is a "potential person" or "a bunch of cells" ... [snip!] ... or "a bunch of cells" until they are born. So then what would the difference be between being 3 weeks and being 12 weeks?"</blockquote>

The difference between 3 and 12 weeks would be the emotional turmoil of seeing blood and a small person, as opposed to blood and some clotting. As I said, I understand that it is emotionally distressing to know that you have become pregnant and then lose it in the blink of an eye. I'm just saying that for me, a chemical can't possibly scar someone as deeply as someone who had to go through labour to deliver a lifeless child. I'm sorry if this has caused offense but we're all entitled to give an opinion.

I'm due July 18th (a boy), have 1 child & live in Australia

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empire state of mind

11932 posts

posted 4th Dec

<blockquote>Quoting Squid Kid:" Tests are rarely false positive and evap lines aren't super common. With my first Chemical pregnancy, ... [snip!] ... I had one of those "But you can't even see it!" lines. I lost a bloody mucous plug on the day AF was due and started bleeding."</blockquote>

Evap lines are very common. Especially with blue dye tests.

I live in New York, New York

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Meg and Nora's Mommy

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posted 4th Dec

I personally dont count my chemical that I had back in 2006 because, for me, it was never a baby. Sperm met egg and failed is how I viewed it. But, thats me, and I dont care if other people "count" theirs...

I have 2 kids & live in Bridgewater, Massachusetts

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posted 4th Dec

Quoting Bettinas:" I don't know how I feel on this subject.... It seems odd to me that some people invest themselves and ... [snip!] ... out you are pregnant and then suddenly get your period... But really, isn't that just our own fault for being POAS fiends? "

I feel like all my losses, although early are losses, therefore I have them listed as angel babies. I do NOT have them listed for attention. It is for knowledgement.

As for testing early, if you have unexplained issues (multiple losses, etc) and your doctor wants you to test early, that is what you do. Why? Because sometimes they want you to start taking certain meds as soon as you get a positive (and usually the earlier the better), they want to start running certain tests, etc.

I never tested that early with my first two pregnancies. My two boys. It wasn't until my first loss after them that I was told to start testing early. I honestly didn't understand why people tested early until after I experienced my losses and learned medically why it can be benefically. Most do it because they medically need to. Some just do it because they want to know as soon as possible. To each their own.

I'm due May 30th (a boy), have 2 kids & 6 angel babies & live in Fall Branch, Tennessee

posted 4th Dec

Quoting Raindancer:" Well since last I checked the second you are pregnant it counts as a pregnancy so why does it matter ... [snip!] ... to me but most mothers who find out they are pregnant that early actually did want that baby because they were trying for it."

Exactly.

As soon as I start feeling what could be symptoms, I get excited. When I get that positive, I get nervous, but I am also so happy. It is like a possible dream come true. So yeah, when that dream ends, it hurts. No matter if it was a dream that I lived for a few days or not.

I'm due May 30th (a boy), have 2 kids & 6 angel babies & live in Fall Branch, Tennessee

posted 4th Dec

Quoting Mama MacGyver*:" I do think you can consider it a loss if, TO YOU it feels like you genuinely LOST something. However ... [snip!] ... it's a little naive for people to say that a loss at 4 weeks is just the same as a loss at 12 weeks, 20 weeks, 30 weeks, etc. "

I do agree that it isn't the same thing.You have had more time to dream your dream, then only to have it taken from you

I'm due May 30th (a boy), have 2 kids & 6 angel babies & live in Fall Branch, Tennessee

Bangtail

7340 posts

posted 4th Dec

I don't count it as a loss for me, I guess because my other losses were much more substantial physically and emotionally. But I don't judge other women who do.

I have 2 kids & 3 angel babies & live in Katy, Texas

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posted 4th Dec

Quoting empire state of mind:" No. And I think a lot of "Chemical pregnancies" are people seeing evap lines, convincing themselves they are pregnant and then getting their period."

I know for a fact that all my positives were positives. I have pictures to prove that as well as my OB tests (blood tests) to prove it as well.

Now I have seen a quite a few ladies on here getting multiple evaps. Everyone telling them that they are evaps, but they do not believe it. They say it just a faint positive. Then they get their period. Sometimes when it was due or sometimes a few days late. I am not the type of bitch that would burst their bubble, but it was what they believe. It does upset me though.

I'm due May 30th (a boy), have 2 kids & 6 angel babies & live in Fall Branch, Tennessee

posted 4th Dec

Quoting empire state of mind:" <blockquote>Quoting Squid Kid:" Tests are rarely false positive and evap lines ... [snip!] ... on the day AF was due and started bleeding."</blockquote> Evap lines are very common. Especially with blue dye tests."

I have never tested with a blue dye. Just for that reason. Lol.

I'm due May 30th (a boy), have 2 kids & 6 angel babies & live in Fall Branch, Tennessee

posted 4th Dec

Caught up.

I do count all my losses. Even though, they were early losses. They are dreams lost to me. They should each be knowledge. I do grieve for certain pregnancies more than others. Just because of how positive and determined that I was that everything would be okay. Then it wouldn't be.

To each their own though. If you don't count them, that is fine too.

I'm due May 30th (a boy), have 2 kids & 6 angel babies & live in Fall Branch, Tennessee

posted 4th Dec

Quoting Bettinas:" I don't know how I feel on this subject.... It seems odd to me that some people invest themselves and ... [snip!] ... out you are pregnant and then suddenly get your period... But really, isn't that just our own fault for being POAS fiends? "

I meant to address something else in your post.

Also as far as I know, I never had a loss before my boys. Maybe I did. Idk. Either way, I have experienced all six of my losses since I had my boys. Both boys were conceived naturally (no fertility meds, etc) and fair quickly/easily. I had no issues during my pregnancies or during labor and delivery. So after such easy pregnancies and then three losses, I had testing. Just about every test you can have done. They still have not been able to find the exact reason for all my losses. They can only assume what caused them.

So even after no explainations, I wasn't ready to give up. We wanted another child. We didn't want our losses to be in vain. We kept faith and prayed for a miracle. So far, after 6 losses, we have our miracle. I am nearly 15 weeks pregnant. A blessing that I never thought I would experience again. Why? Because I didn't give up.

Pushing and fighting through your fear and emotions can be hard. It isn't for everyone. It doesn't mean that someone else should question someone that choose to continue ttc.

I'm due May 30th (a boy), have 2 kids & 6 angel babies & live in Fall Branch, Tennessee

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posted 4th Dec

No, i do not consider chemical pregnancies or a blight ovium miscarriages or angel babies but yes i would consider it a loss...

I'm due April 26th (it's a surprise), have 1 child & 1 angel baby & live in Massachusetts

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posted 4th Dec

Quoting Mama MacGyver*:" I do think you can consider it a loss if, TO YOU it feels like you genuinely LOST something. However ... [snip!] ... it's a little naive for people to say that a loss at 4 weeks is just the same as a loss at 12 weeks, 20 weeks, 30 weeks, etc. "

I'm due April 26th (it's a surprise), have 1 child & 1 angel baby & live in Massachusetts

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Squid Kid

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posted 4th Dec

Quoting empire state of mind:" <blockquote>Quoting Squid Kid:" Tests are rarely false positive and evap lines ... [snip!] ... on the day AF was due and started bleeding."</blockquote> Evap lines are very common. Especially with blue dye tests."

I don't even consider blue dyes valid tests in the least.