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re: I'm just not cut out for Christianity.

posted 4th Dec
Quoting 6 blessings so far....:" the bible doesnt tell present day christians to kill nonbelievers. In the bible the hebrew nation had ... [snip!] ... message where its illegal.....True christians believe a persons eternity is more important than the time spent here on earth."

So, you are for breaking the laws against conversion to "save" a Hindu's soul?
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I have 1 child & live in Fort Sill, Oklahoma
posted 4th Dec
Quoting khigh:" How do you believe conversions should happen? Forced at gunpoint? Bribery? Fear of Hell? Indoctrination?"

I believe conversions should happen by true christians sharing the salvation message & setting an example of christs love and the peace that comes w/it so that those around them question the difference in their lifestyle and will want that ''peace'' that comes w/salvation.
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I have 6 kids & live in Glen Burnie, Maryland
posted 4th Dec
Quoting khigh:" So, you are for breaking the laws against conversion to "save" a Hindu's soul?"



Actually, i am for ''breaking the laws'' to allow people a choice.....whether or not they want their soul ''saved'' is up to them in the end.
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I have 6 kids & live in Glen Burnie, Maryland
posted 4th Dec
Quoting 6 blessings so far....:" "

Proselytizing is illegal in India because people get killed and there are riots over it. There are good reasons why you can't spread the love there.
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I have 1 child & live in Fort Sill, Oklahoma
posted 4th Dec
Quoting khigh:" Proselytizing is illegal in India because people get killed and there are riots over it. There are good reasons why you can't spread the love there."

There is no ''good'' reason for .allowing a government to dictate a whole populations spiritual beliefs. If a Christian chooses to sacrifice his life to share the ''Gospel'' that is his choice...if others choose to murder and riot because of it....that is their choice. Religon, race, sexual orientation, etc, have all caused conflict (riots, wars, terrorism, imprisonment, enslavement, and a host of other horrible things) that doesnt mean we should all sit back and ignore those issues because they are ''messy''
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I have 6 kids & live in Glen Burnie, Maryland
posted 4th Dec
<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" What I have come to understand, is that people are far more comfortable living in a grey area, so to ... [snip!] ... in fear of being wrong, I suppose. However, I agree with you. I think that by not picking a side, you actually are, anyway."</blockquote>


A little late here, but I don't think that choosing spiritual beliefs means choosing a side. That's one of the reasons people don't like fundamentalists. They act like they're on the "right" side fighting against all the "wrong" people. In choosing a spiritual belief, you are choosing the right path for you and saying everything else is the wrong path for you. Me saying that I'm a Christian means that other beliefs are not right for me, but not that all other people are wrong. Especially considering that most daily actions and ways of Christian living are not exclusive to Christians. The only "true" Christians are those with a true and steady belief in Christ as the messiah. Following the bible to a t is not possible or practical.
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I have 2 kids & 3 angel babies & live in Katy, Texas
posted 4th Dec
<blockquote><b>Quoting 6 blessings so far....:</b>" "</blockquote>



There are ways of showing God's love without preaching. Many missions groups do it all the time simply by showing up to help.
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I have 2 kids & 3 angel babies & live in Katy, Texas
posted 4th Dec
Quoting Bangtail:" <blockquote><b>Quoting 6 blessings so far....:</b>" "</blockquote> There are ... [snip!] ... There are ways of showing God's love without preaching. Many missions groups do it all the time simply by showing up to help."

''showing up to help'' is what i meant by ''being an example'' sometimes ''being an example'' leads people to question why you ''care to help'' which leads to discussing your spiritual belief.
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I have 6 kids & live in Glen Burnie, Maryland
posted 4th Dec
<blockquote><b>Quoting 6 blessings so far....:</b>" ''showing up to help'' is what i meant by ''being an example'' sometimes ''being an example'' leads people to question why you ''care to help'' which leads to discussing your spiritual belief."</blockquote>



Agreed. I'm not one for spreading the message, though, because I have my own interpretations of everything. I think I'd just confuse people more then I'd help. So I just stick to good works and paying tithe.
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I have 2 kids & 3 angel babies & live in Katy, Texas
posted 4th Dec
Quoting 6 blessings so far....:" ''showing up to help'' is what i meant by ''being an example'' sometimes ''being an example'' leads people to question why you ''care to help'' which leads to discussing your spiritual belief."


Couldn't you "care to help" because you are a good person and not even talk to nonbelievers about your sky king? They really don't want to hear it, and at least in India and Nepal, have been doing great with their religion for 5000 years.
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I have 1 child & live in Fort Sill, Oklahoma
posted 4th Dec
Quoting khigh:" Couldn't you "care to help" because you are a good person and not even talk to nonbelievers about your ... [snip!] ... They really don't want to hear it, and at least in India and Nepal, have been doing great with their religion for 5000 years."

if someone asks about ''why i care to help'' i am going to be honest w/them (not just say ''i am a good person'' ) because honestly ,i am just a sinner saved by grace. i prefer to help more locally (food banks, baby pantries, clothing drives,ect) but other christians are ''called'' to the mission fields. i will support those christians w/my prayers and tithes through my church. i respect their position to spread Gods love in the way they see fit. just like i respect your position to disagree w/the practice of missions work in those areas.
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I have 6 kids & live in Glen Burnie, Maryland
posted 4th Dec
Quoting khigh:" Couldn't you "care to help" because you are a good person and not even talk to nonbelievers about your ... [snip!] ... They really don't want to hear it, and at least in India and Nepal, have been doing great with their religion for 5000 years."

I agree. I do not donate to anything that will push religion onto people who do not need it... Operation Christmas Child, for instance. Leave them alone, they don't need your christianity! Buy them a cow if you really care about them...
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I have 2 kids & live in Cold Lake, Alberta
posted 4th Dec
Quoting 6 blessings so far....:" if someone asks about ''why i care to help'' i am going to be honest w/them (not just say ''i am a good ... [snip!] ... love in the way they see fit. just like i respect your position to disagree w/the practice of missions work in those areas."

Of course I'm going to disagree with it because proselytizing is both illegal and forbidden in my religion. Your god does not belong in a country that does not want him just because it makes missionaries feel better about themselves. I think the first hint would have been burning down the churches.
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I have 1 child & live in Fort Sill, Oklahoma
posted 4th Dec
Quoting Kayla [ ]♥:" I agree. I do not donate to anything that will push religion onto people who do not need it... Operation ... [snip!] ... Child, for instance. Leave them alone, they don't need your christianity! Buy them a cow if you really care about them..."

our church youth group actually supports a program that does purchase livestock for people in those areas (chickens, goats, lambs, ect)
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I have 6 kids & live in Glen Burnie, Maryland
posted 4th Dec
<blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" Of course I'm going to disagree with it because proselytizing is both illegal and forbidden in my religion. ... [snip!] ... because it makes missionaries feel better about themselves. I think the first hint would have been burning down the churches. "</blockquote>

Do you disagree with a Christian group going to help, say, in a crisis, if they aren't preaching? I know that's not a likely scenario, but it could happen.
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I have 2 kids & 3 angel babies & live in Katy, Texas
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